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Friends in high places: How Trump uses the power of the pardon https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...pardon-n879011
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05-31-2018, 06:29 PM
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Any explanation other than Trump throwing a few bones to his base and sending signals to Cohen and Manafort isn't remotely credible and you know it. Our disagreement is whether this is a good thing for him to do. You think it's cute and I don't.
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Sending signals? No. Throwing bones to his base? No. Attempting to poke some folks in the eye while removing political crimes from some other folks records? Yeah, I'd buy that.
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05-31-2018, 07:19 PM
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Sending signals? No. Throwing bones to his base? No. Attempting to poke some folks in the eye while removing political crimes from some other folks records? Yeah, I'd buy that.
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Neither Arpaio nor D'Souza were convicted of "political crimes" (there is no such thing in this country). These contemptible sleazeballs were convicted of felonies. What's with all of your "process crime" and "political crime" nonsense used to excuse felonious behavior by your tribe? It's clear that these pardons were political, but the crimes weren't.
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06-01-2018, 09:01 AM
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I think its just proof that the left is easily triggered by anything this Prez does.
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Good point. I'd substitute politically correct establishment for left.
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06-01-2018, 09:12 AM
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Good point. I'd substitute politically correct establishment for left.
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........, and for good reason. Pardons of Arpaio, D'Souza and Libby were strictly for political purposes and an abuse of his pardon power.
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06-01-2018, 10:31 AM
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For accuracy.
I'm pretty sure all presidential pardons are political.
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For accuracy.
I'm pretty sure all presidential pardons are political.
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Dotard is lowering the bar and setting the stage for Pence ( ) to pardon him when he gets skewered by Mueller, aka Muellered.
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06-01-2018, 04:33 PM
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Congrats Mr D’Souza
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Congrats Mr D’Souza
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For what, gaming the system and being rewarded for it?
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06-02-2018, 11:30 AM
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For what, gaming the system and being rewarded for it?
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Dsouza PEAD guilty. Under the plea agreement, he was sentenced to eight months in a halfway house and probation, and had to pay a $30,000 fine. What did he do? D’Souza admitting he used straw donors to donate $20,000 to the U.S. Senate campaign of Wendy Long, a friend of his. Federal campaign law limits contributors to U.S. Senate campaigns to $5,000 each.
Let’s contrast this with what happened to former Democratic candidate for president, John Edwards, who reportedly used nearly $1 million in campaign funds to hide an extramarital affair. If convicted, he would have faced up to 30 years in prison, a much more severe penalty than the three to 10 years D’Souza was facing. According to prosecutors, Edwards accepted $725,000 from an elderly lady, other donations from a wealthy Texas attorney, and filed a false campaign report in order to funnel roughly $1 million from those sources to his mistress, Rielle Hunter, ostensibly to keep her quiet, and an aide, Andrew Young, who pretended to be the father of Hunter’s child with Edwards. Young, who was married, later came out and denounced Edwards in a book for putting him in that position. Edwards, for his knowing and immoral shenanigans, served ZERO time - not a day in a halfway house, jail or prison.
Edwards’ two attorneys, who include Geoffrey Fieger, the notorious attorney for euthanasia doctor Jack Kevorkian, were also acquitted of any wrongdoing. They had been indicted for allegedly causing more than 60 straw donors to contribute over $125,000 in illegal campaign contributions to Edwards’ 2004 presidential campaign. That’s right, more than 60 straw donors, not just two like D’Souza allegedly recruited. It was easy for prosecutors to show the 60 were straw donors, because they were virtually all employees of Edwards’ attorney’s law firm Fieger Law, family members of the firm’s employees or third-party vendors of the firm.
NOTE: Fieger also ran for office in Michigan as a Democrat.
Political? Yeah, it probably was.
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