Snap Shots of YOUR Republican Party, 21st Century Style

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

But with a more sensible view of the priorities and limitations of the US than previous leaders who sold out the center of the country.

You are buying a myth that has been projected onto an outrageously flawed leader-figure. Trump understands nothing and cares for no one. His 'prosperity, like that of the Nazis in the mid-thirties, is a borrowed-money effect, with the benefits mainly going to the very few. His trade war is based on ignorance and delusion--he still thinks a trade deficit is like a business loss to an individual firm. Utter stupidity! he is wreaking havoc with the economy, the farmers may never get the Chinese market back.

But you are of course very attached to your delusions, all the more so when people you think are wrong-headed denounce them.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

You are buying a myth that has been projected onto an outrageously flawed leader-figure. Trump understands nothing and cares for no one. His 'prosperity, like that of the Nazis in the mid-thirties, is a borrowed-money effect, with the benefits mainly going to the very few. His trade war is based on ignorance and delusion--he still thinks a trade deficit is like a business loss to an individual firm. Utter stupidity! he is wreaking havoc with the economy, the farmers may never get the Chinese market back.

But you are of course very attached to your delusions, all the more so when people you think are wrong-headed denounce them.

No views on what the previous admins did to the center of the country?

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

No views on what the previous admins did to the center of the country?

Besides providing them with affordable healthcare?

Your wingnut talking points have all been thoroughly debunked, so why do you even bother, Whell Jr?

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

No views on what the previous admins did to the center of the country?

What they DIDN'T do was sell them out to industrial insiders, Wall Street, and admin sycophants.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

No views on what the previous admins did to the center of the country?

Loaded question. I'm supposed to agree the previous admins did something in my answer. Manufacturing activity down some. That's been the decisions and mindsets of corporations. Under capitalism, they have fairly total freedom to make such decisions. I once posted here some criticism of a Phillips decision to close a lighting plant here, and suggested such decisions should not just be up to them, but no one commented.

You keep saying the Dems 'sold out,' which implies they are responsible, and further implies they were paid. Seems like reckless blame-throwing to me. Maybe you could explain what you mean.

[bobabode]

Some receipts would be nice too but I'm not holding my breath, DonQ.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Loaded question. I'm supposed to agree the previous admins did something in my answer. Manufacturing activity down some. That's been the decisions and mindsets of corporations. Under capitalism, they have fairly total freedom to make such decisions. I once posted here some criticism of a Phillips decision to close a lighting plant here, and suggested such decisions should not just be up to them, but no one commented.

You keep saying the Dems 'sold out,' which implies they are responsible, and further implies they were paid. Seems like reckless blame-throwing to me. Maybe you could explain what you mean.

Note previous admins: Repubs and dems.

[Dondilion]

"Congress has sold out to corporate interests and betrayed the concerns of working Americans."
John Claybrook: president of the consumer advocacy group, Public Citizen.

His reaction to the results [house - 237/197, senate - 83/15] of the bill to usher China into the WTO.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...984-story.html

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

"Congress has sold out to corporate interests and betrayed the concerns of working Americans."
John Claybrook: president of the consumer advocacy group, Public Citizen.

His reaction to the results [house - 237/197, senate - 83/15] of the bill to usher China into the WTO.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...984-story.html

So is this phrase 'sell-out' just rhetoric and metaphor, or do you mean it literally?
Always beware of rhetoric and metaphor. It can illuminate, but just as easily engender an overwrought emotional reaction, AS IF the 'literal' meaning were true, when it is not.

People sometimes take metaphors and carry them around as if they were revealed truth.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Note previous admins: Repubs and dems.

I am aware. The post I mentioned, about the Phillips Sparta plant, dates back to 2011. You'll find it here: http://www.politicalchat.org/showpos...87&postcount=1

The main takeaway: it's not Republican governments, or Democratic governments, that determine what is done with capital. It's the capitalists, whom nobody elected, are not widely known public figures, are unwatched except by those with specialized interests, and are basically untouchable.

And who wield their power like it's the divine right of kings.