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[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Charles

All said and done, he did what needed to be done for the last 20 yrs.

What is it he did?

[Charles]

Originally Posted by noonereal

What is it he did?

Well, after 20 yrs of acting like it didn't happen, or treating what did happen like a criminal matter, or shooting cruise missles here and there (kinda like beating up a convict while he's handcuffed behind his back, don't gain much respect like that)...he took the fight to the enemy, and put boots on the ground...which shows a certain amount of resolve. He has attempted to remake the nature of things in the Middle East.

The Middle East is the ultimate Tar Baby for the US...there are no good solutions. IMHO, the Bush Administration has attempted to force them into the 21st century.

I can tell that you have no use for the Republicans in general, and Bush (and Cheney) in particular. And we can piss and moan, and nitpick policies until Hell freezes over. I suppose this is no more than a matter of opinion.

But would you admit that Bush stepped up to the plate (Sarah loves this kinda talk), made some hard choices, and proceeded in good faith to protect the interests of our Republic?

If you won't concede at least this much, then I'm going to write you off as being narrow minded, and beyond reasoning with.

Chas

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Charles

But would you admit that Bush stepped up to the plate (Sarah loves this kinda talk), made some hard choices, and proceeded in good faith to protect the interests of our Republic?

Chas

Absolutely not.

That is what he sold.

He responded as ANY president would have in Afghanistan and caused a disaster in Iraq. His own father told him not to do it.
We likely would be done in Afghanistan if he had not divert resources to Iraq.
IMHO, Bush was a sincere guy who if you were to play chess with would always think he was winning, only to be blindsided by checkmate. He never thought through the consequences of his actions, spoke like a tough drunken sailor to lesser countries and took a lone wolf approach to international policy.

By the way I am a registered republican who's party was stolen by Bush and his neocon advisers. I voted for his Dad twice and Ray-gun twice, even Ford.

If you are unable to accept others views you are correct to be a republican in 2009. If we get rid of the radical zoo currently masquerading as republicans you will be without a party however.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by noonereal

Absolutely not.

That is what he sold.

He responded as ANY president would have in Afghanistan and caused a disaster in Iraq. His own father told him not to do it.
We likely would be done in Afghanistan if he had not divert resources to Iraq.
IMHO, Bush was a sincere guy who if you were to play chess with would always think he was winning, only to be blindsided by checkmate. He never thought through the consequences of his actions, spoke like a tough drunken sailor to lesser countries and took a lone wolf approach to international policy.

By the way I am a registered republican who's party was stolen by Bush and his neocon advisers. I voted for his Dad twice and Ray-gun twice, even Ford.

If you are unable to accept others views you are correct to be a republican in 2009. If we get rid of the radical zoo currently masquerading as republicans you will be without a party however.

Be without a party??? Hell, I AM without a party, they're all Globalists. And I, for one, feel we have enough masters reaching into our hip pockets.

As far as being unable to accept others views, it wouldn't hurt you to take a look in the mirror, at least concerning this issue. You have never said a kind word about George Bush as far as I know. Or Cheney. Or Palin. Your absolute hatred of these people appears to border on the irrational.

And as bad as it is, Bush and his collection of "neocons" appear to better represent my interests and beliefs than Obama and his collection of "Bolsheviks".

I can be a rude sonofabitch too.

That said, I still like ya. And I love to argue with you, you're like the bitchy ex-wife I never had.

Just kidding, and take care,

Chas

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Charles

You have never said a kind word about George Bush as far as I know. Or Cheney. Or Palin. Your absolute hatred of these people appears to border on the irrational.

You are right and you can throw in Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. (I don't hate Bush though, he's just a good guy with bad ideas)

Originally Posted by Charles

And as bad as it is, Bush and his collection of "neocons" appear to better represent my interests and beliefs than Obama and his collection of "Bolsheviks".

not mine

Originally Posted by Charles

I can be a rude sonofabitch too.

did not mean to be rude, you never are