Obama in Cuba

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Boreas

The truth is that Che was a great and charismatic revolutionary fighter but far too nuts to work in the government. Basically, Fidel and Raoul knew early on that they needed to get rid of him but he was too popular to purge. The solution they hit on was to give him tasks at which he would both chafe and fail, then convince him to leave Cuba and spread the revolution to other parts of the world.

So, the Cuban government came out the winners. They got rid of a seriously loose cannon (who also happened to smell very bad), spread the fame of the Cuban revolution around the world and, with his eventual death, had a martyr around which build the cult of Che.

I see you've been brainwashed by the official US Government's line of shit.

Che never wanted to work in the government. He did for a while but his heart wasn't in it. No one had to convince him to leave Cuba and try to spread the revolution. That was what he wanted. As such he was a danger to US business interests in Latin America and beyond. For that reason he was hunted down and murdered by the US government.

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/2/7...he_how_the_cia

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I see you've been brainwashed by the official US Government's line of shit.

Che never wanted to work in the government. He did for a while but his heart wasn't in it. No one had to convince him to leave Cuba and try to spread the revolution. That was what he wanted. As such he was a danger to US business interests in Latin America and beyond. For that reason he was hunted down and murdered by the US government.

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/2/7...he_how_the_cia

Did you intend to provide a link that doesn't support your position?

And, even 4 years ago when that book was published, the fact that the CIA killed Che was really old news.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

For that reason he was hunted down and murdered by the US government.

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/2/7...he_how_the_cia

This is really funny. Sad that folks like you believe this stuff, but funny. You should send this to Oliver Stone. Might give him an idea for his next "history movie".

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

The truth is that Che was a great and charismatic revolutionary fighter but far too nuts to work in the government. Basically, Fidel and Raoul knew early on that they needed to get rid of him but he was too popular to purge. The solution they hit on was to give him tasks at which he would both chafe and fail, then convince him to leave Cuba and spread the revolution to other parts of the world.

So, the Cuban government came out the winners. They got rid of a seriously loose cannon (who also happened to smell very bad), spread the fame of the Cuban revolution around the world and, with his eventual death, had a martyr around which build the cult of Che.

The history lesson was unnecessary, nor does it answer the question. The defacto leader of the free world allowing himself to be photo op'ed under the likeness of the blood thirsty poster child for communism really doesn't strike you as a bit tone deaf, huh?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

The history lesson was unnecessary, nor does it answer the question. The defacto leader of the free world allowing himself to be photo op'ed under the likeness of the blood thirsty poster child for communism really doesn't strike you as a bit tone deaf, huh?

Screw the question and screw your hysterical rhetoric. They're both bullshit. The same people who are tearing their hair out over this visit think nothing of doing business with Saudi Arabia and say nothing about the public beheadings, lashings and disfigurements they inflict on their own people.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by whell

The history lesson was unnecessary, nor does it answer the question. The defacto leader of the free world allowing himself to be photo op'ed under the likeness of the blood thirsty poster child for communism really doesn't strike you as a bit tone deaf, huh?

Heh, Bloodthirsty huh? Like Bush the bloodthirsty poster child for "something like democracy"?

Che is undoubtedly responsible for far fewer innocent deaths that we are.

[MrPots]

I thought so too.....

He kicked out all the fucking capitalist who were raping the Cuban people back in the 50's.

We could use someone like him today.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by MrPots

He kicked out all the fucking capitalist who were raping the Cuban people back in the 50's.

Yeah, and now we're stuck with their miserable offspring.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Yeah, and now we're stuck with their miserable offspring.

Those exile Cubans and their relatives have been at the centers of many of our crucial events.

They punch way above their numbers crippling many presidents' policy initiatives.

[Pio1980]

History generally shows that successful revolutionaries make poor administrators, exceptions are rare. Beware of a taste for authoritarianism becoming tyranny.


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