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04-24-2010, 09:36 AM
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Throughout this thread you've made a number of assertions but have offered support for none of them. Do you have any? I'd like to know why you hold the opinions you do.
By the way, I seem to recall you mentioning that you're Native American. Are you Lakota?
John
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04-24-2010, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
So, you bought the line? I mean, the extradition smells, but the trial was fine: GUILTY.
That's probably because, under scrutiny, the Natives and the American Indian Movement were at fault, not the FBI.
Wounded Knee II started as a power struggle between Russell Means and AIM against the Oglala Sioux Tribal Council and its duly elected chairman, Richard Wilson. The FBI had to restrain Wilson from taking care of AIM insurgents on his own terms in order to prevent bloodshed. In sum, the FBI actually protected AIM insurgents from Native Americans who, justifiably, wanted to take back their reservation.
Peltier isn't a political prisoner, he's a thug who hides behind his own bullshit.
You realize the other Natives there, that day, copped to what they did and were found "Not Guilty by Reason of Self-Defense?" All Peltier -- ever -- had to do was man up: then or now. But he's so behind the 8-ball on the myth of innocence that a cell is more attractive.
He's a brutish thug who can rot.
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What little I know about it indicates you are correct, the man belongs in jail.
For what it's worth,
Chas
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04-27-2010, 04:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreas
Throughout this thread you've made a number of assertions but have offered support for none of them. Do you have any? I'd like to know why you hold the opinions you do.
By the way, I seem to recall you mentioning that you're Native American. Are you Lakota?
John
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In part, yes, but that's not hugely relevant.
As for validity, this is -- all -- historical record, well distorted by those who would try to make a buck (AIM, et al).
Yes, Peltier's extradition from Canada was fishy, but he was a wanted man before anything happened at Pine Ridge: he's no political prisoner.
Obvious query? Why run to Canada?
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06-28-2014, 11:32 AM
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I thought I'd bring this back up as the first rumblings of "will Obama pardon this guy" have started to waft through Indian Country...
From the last time this came around...
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06-28-2014, 03:15 PM
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I recall the case as well and yes I believe he was railroaded by a kangaroo court.
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From what I've read and heard about the case, I agree
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06-28-2014, 03:18 PM
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I've got bunches of doubt. It took a super prosecution effort and a friendly judge to get this guy. If nothing else, they wanted it way too much.
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06-28-2014, 03:35 PM
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And even if he is guilty, so what?
After all the Indians that us white people have murdered in cold blood starting back in 1492 with Columbus, we owe them a few free ones.
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06-28-2014, 09:06 PM
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Was not there and for one don't believe most of what the government propaganda "Facts" are when it comes to "rascals" from those times. A lot of grey area when it comes to the goings on during those times.
Agree even if the facts support it, he had history behind any anger and actions. it is a shame for those who died but what about the thousands of others who did also?
Barney
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