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07-28-2013, 01:28 PM
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Chev has a clean turbo diesel in the new Cruze.
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07-28-2013, 01:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by merrylander
Chev has a clean turbo diesel in the new Cruze.
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I didn't know that.
Of course, I haven't set foot on a car lot for almost 8 years.
Chas
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07-29-2013, 07:31 AM
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The low octane sippers are coming. Almost every brand has a few they want to bring to the US. Saw a jeep liberty the other day with its diesel badge on the back. Hello 60-80mpg.
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07-29-2013, 07:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by merrylander
Chev has a clean turbo diesel in the new Cruze.
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Yep, a diesel developed in Kaiserslautern, Germany, and first used in the Opel Astra.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...t-drive-review
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07-29-2013, 10:09 AM
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I think the reason the car shows from Europe tend to be better is, they are far, far more car crazy over there. I saw weekly car newspapers in England!
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... Why WE can't have these cars is a mystery to me..
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It's live axle syndrome I've still got it.
I think if we doubled the price of gas and added a heap more taxes on new, heaps? we'd see different cars.
Pete
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07-29-2013, 10:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
I think the reason the car shows from Europe tend to be better is, they are far, far more car crazy over there. I saw weekly car newspapers in England!
It's live axle syndrome I've still got it.
I think if we doubled the price of gas and added a heap more taxes on new, heaps? we'd see different cars.
Pete
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Just for the summer driving months.
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07-29-2013, 02:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
I think if we doubled the price of gas and added a heap more taxes on new, heaps? we'd see different cars.
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And this is different then what has happened in the last decade how?
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07-29-2013, 03:03 PM
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I was comparing us to the EU
http://goeurope.about.com/gi/o.htm?z...inewithtax.cfm
I did a little looking and the base price of a 2012 Focus wagon in the UK was 17,095 Pounds, while the 2012 wagon here was $17,400. At the rough average exchange rate on 2012, about $1.57, that would put the UK base at $26,800+. Even the base model could be equipped differently, but that's a lotta cash for a Focus.
Pete
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07-29-2013, 03:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
I was comparing us to the EU
http://goeurope.about.com/gi/o.htm?z...inewithtax.cfm
I did a little looking and the base price of a 2012 Focus wagon in the UK was 17,095 Pounds, while the 2012 wagon here was $17,400. At the rough average exchange rate on 2012, about $1.57, that would put the UK base at $26,800+. Even the base model could be equipped differently, but that's a lotta cash for a Focus.
Pete
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Are yew tellin' me that FoMoCo is gougin' them Limies???
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07-29-2013, 03:57 PM
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If you want people to conserve fuel, (or anything else, for that matter), the only way to get them to take it seriously is to make it prohibitively expensive. You can talk all day long and no one will listen. (I'm the prime example of that. )
Hit them in the wallet and you have everyones attention.
Dave
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