What does buy American mean? - Page 3

Bigerik · #1 09-11-2009, 08:34 AM

A couple of numbers....

In July 2001, the US Dollar Index was at $1.17 and Gold cost $278 an ounce.

The economy was NOT in as good a shape then as some Clinton lovers would like you to believe, but I do think that with some good, conservative fiscal management, by today, the US economy would have been in pretty darn good shape. What we got instead was 7 years of the most totally reckless spending of money that the US has ever seen. Money was being printed as if it had some value. The time is coming now to pay the piper.

By financial standards, the Bush administration was NOT right wing. The money Obama is looking to spend now is nothing compared to what Bush did in his reckless 7 years. The truly sad part about the Bush administration was the fact that he bankrupted America (no, that is not an overstatement or an exaggeration. By any objective standard the US IS bankrupt.), and bought the US absolutely nothing with it.

The US citizenry has its own share of blame to shoulder due to it's every increasing appetite for the latest, Chinese made disposable gadget that it just has to have and it's demand to pay the absolute minimum for it. "Who cares if my neighbour is out of a job, if I can save $.25 by buying the same thing he makes, from China."

merrylander · #2 09-11-2009, 08:47 AM

As I used to tell folks in Geneva when the asked if I was an American I would say yes. Then they asked what state did I live in and I would say Ontario. Simply put Canada is part of North America and has just as much right to claim such. So by saying Buy American I mean both countries, heck our two Chevvies were built in Oshawa. People do not realize that the U.S's biggest trading partner is the Province of Ontario, not just the whole country. The only advantage we have experienced from these financial shenanigans is that we have gotten a big raise in my pension as the Candian dollar went from $0.72 to $0.92 against the dollar here.

Bigerik · #3 09-11-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander

As I used to tell folks in Geneva when the asked if I was an American I would say yes. Then they asked what state did I live in and I would say Ontario. Simply put Canada is part of North America and has just as much right to claim such. So by saying Buy American I mean both countries, heck our two Chevvies were built in Oshawa. People do not realize that the U.S's biggest trading partner is the Province of Ontario, not just the whole country. The only advantage we have experienced from these financial shenanigans is that we have gotten a big raise in my pension as the Candian dollar went from $0.72 to $0.92 against the dollar here.

Yes, the US and Canadian economies are so integrated now that there really is no separating them. Which is why Canada is also going to suffer with the US collapse.

piece-itpete · #4 09-11-2009, 09:51 AM

My 'domestic' Grand Marquis are built in Canada.

As someone with some minor involvement in cross border business I sure wish that integration extended to simple border crossing. I don't understand why it's so difficult.

Probably worried about all those Canadians sneaking in with the truckloads of hemp

Pete

merrylander · #5 09-11-2009, 11:05 AM

Well at least thanks to CMHC there were no funny mortgages issued up there, spared the banks from derivatives, though I did see AIG repaying BofM for summat.

Sandy G · #6 09-11-2009, 11:53 AM

The real reason, I think, that its such a PITA on Canadian border crossings is that too many bureaucrats would lose their ability to be little demi-gods & get to boss sheeple around...Same w/airport "security"....Does anybody honestly believe that the 350 lb woman sitting there by the metal detector could thwart a terrorist ?!? Christamighty, she'll have trouble waddling to the crapper on the other side of the terminal...

painter · #7 09-11-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G

The real reason, I think, that its such a PITA on Canadian border crossings is that too many bureaucrats would lose their ability to be little demi-gods & get to boss sheeple around...Same w/airport "security"....Does anybody honestly believe that the 350 lb woman sitting there by the metal detector could thwart a terrorist ?!? Christamighty, she'll have trouble waddling to the crapper on the other side of the terminal...

http://www.americansworking.com/

painter · #8 09-14-2009, 09:22 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ETrr-XHBjE

Sandy G · #9 09-15-2009, 06:19 AM

Aww, man ! Sittin' here sobbin' ! That was GREAT...And I have never been a particularly big fan of the National Anthem..It is notoriously hard to sing, has a somewhat weird tune, & is a bit too heavy on the militaristic.

painter · #10 09-15-2009, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy G

Aww, man ! Sittin' here sobbin' ! That was GREAT...And I have never been a particularly big fan of the National Anthem..It is notoriously hard to sing, has a somewhat weird tune, & is a bit too heavy on the militaristic.

Just thought it's great hearing it sung by so many...including seeing the palship between Bush and Clinton. All is Not dead when it comes to coming together.