2014 Police Fatalities Rise In the US

[sheltiedave]

Zeke, we cannot build enough prisons, and make enough three strikes and you are out laws, and longer mandatory sentencing, and hire enough cops, and write enough laws, to spend our way out of this criminal problem.

We cannot arm the cops heavily enough to eliminate death by firepower, on either side.

We cannot legislate enough to make the problems go away.

We cannot disarm enough to make the problem go away.

The only crucible strong enough to shatter this cycle and recast the mold is economic opportunity, and that requires jobs and education.

I don't see too many people talking about these as part of the solution.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

Zeke, we cannot build enough prisons, and make enough three strikes and you are out laws, and longer mandatory sentencing, and hire enough cops, and write enough laws, to spend our way out of this criminal problem.

We cannot arm the cops heavily enough to eliminate death by firepower, on either side.

We cannot legislate enough to make the problems go away.

We cannot disarm enough to make the problem go away.

The only crucible strong enough to shatter this cycle and recast the mold is economic opportunity, and that requires jobs and education.

I don't see too many people talking about these as part of the solution.

Actually, I am an immense supporter of that. I possess two undergraduate degrees, a graduate degree, have studied abroad in two countries, etc.

But Step One in molding yourself for opportunity is rejecting the idea that any is owed you or that criminal activity is justified in order to obtain it. Refusal to do that is the crux of the issue and that is caused/made worse by entitlement, rationalization, white guilt and excusing the criminal behavior of others due to perceived circumstance. Sum? Anyone who defends Garner and Brown IS part of the problem.

Am I thrilled they died? Not particularly. Do I find it anyone's responsibility but their own? Not a chance.

Choices, people make them. They chose poorly.

And to those who would? Don't try telling me they had no other choices. That's 100% bullshit.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Am I thrilled they died? Not particularly.

No he's not particularly thrilled they're dead...just generally thrilled.

[whell]

Are these the "weak-minded" individuals that The Guardian article refers to?

http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/28/fe...-of-dead-cops/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj4ARsxrZh8

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

Are these the "weak-minded" individuals that The Guardian article refers to?

http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/28/fe...-of-dead-cops/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj4ARsxrZh8

After the bullshit that Fox 45 in Baltimore pulled, I view any video/audio of that sort with huge amounts of skepticism. But let's be specific.

Second link first.

Of course, it's hard to question the credibility of that award winning journalist Carswell Lightnose but, madman that I am, I will critique the audio. It appears to be the exact same clip, over and over again, not just the same words but the same utterance of those words. Also, the words are screwed up. The call isn't "What do we want?.... When do we want it?" but "What do we want?.... What do we want?" I can't say anything about the response but, given the phonied up call, I'm not sure I need to. Then there's the edit. There are three chants. The transitions between chant #1 and "Dead Cops" isn't clean. It's clearly doctored. It's exactly the same between the "Dead Cops" chant and chant #3, a dirty edit and clearly faked with no corresponding jump in the video.

Now, your first link. There's no audio AT ALL, just an assertion that such was chanted in the "notoriously liberal" city of Portland. The Daily Caller, Tucker Carlson's little diversion when he's not assaulting "homos" in public restrooms.

His and yours are the only weak minds in evidence.

John

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

It's clearly doctored. It's exactly the same between the "Dead Cops" chant and chant #3, a dirty edit and clearly faked with no corresponding jump in the video.

Ah, yes, the opinion of John, trained audiologist. Why he's been listening to stereos all his life.

Originally Posted by Boreas

Now, your first link. There's no audio AT ALL, just an assertion that such was chanted in the "notoriously liberal" city of Portland. The Daily Caller, Tucker Carlson's little diversion when he's not assaulting "homos" in public restrooms.

His and yours are the only weak minds in evidence.

John

Maybe your weak mind would accept it if the story came from "Progressives Today"?

http://www.progressivestoday.com/fer...-of-dead-cops/

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by whell

Ah, yes, the opinion of John, trained audiologist. Why he's been listening to stereos all his life.



Maybe your weak mind would accept it if the story came from "Progressives Today"?

http://www.progressivestoday.com/fer...-of-dead-cops/

Did you know that "Progressives Today" is a right-wing advocacy site? In the words of the founder, Jim Hoft:

Two weeks ago we launched Progressives Today website. Our goal is to follow and publicly expose the radical elements of the institutional left.

found on Glen Beck's site: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014...Speed=noscript

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Did you know that "Progressives Today" is a right-wing advocacy site? In the words of the founder, Jim Hoft:



found on Glen Beck's site: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014...Speed=noscript

As Rick Perry would say, "Oopsie Daisey".

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

Ah, yes, the opinion of John, trained audiologist. Why he's been listening to stereos all his life.

Audiology is a medical specialty. Be that as it may, whell, I can hear and what I hear is a fake.

Maybe your weak mind would accept it if the story came from "Progressives Today"?

Two girls? Why, folks, it's a movement! The Portland Oh-ree-gone Massacree Movement!

But where are the mother rapers and father rapers?

Oh, wait! That would be you.

And, whell, "Progressives Today" is a right wing attack site dedicated to "finally hold(ing) the left accountable for their radical opinions, their destructive policies and their dangerous anti-American agenda."

You are such a fucking tool.

John

PS: I haven't been listening to stereos all my life. When I started listening to music seriously there was no stereo.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Audiology is a medical specialty. Be that as it may, whell, I can hear and what I hear is a fake.



Two girls? Why, folks, it's a movement! The Portland Oh-ree-gone Massacree Movement!

But where are the mother rapers and father rapers?

Oh, wait! That would be you.

And, whell, "Progressives Today" is a right wing attack site dedicated to "finally hold(ing) the left accountable for their radical opinions, their destructive policies and their dangerous anti-American agenda."

You are such a fucking tool.

John

PS: I haven't been listening to stereos all my life. When I started listening to music seriously there was no stereo.

Whell will never accept that the right-wing attack sites lie to him. He thinks we are the enemy. He thinks we lie.