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Old 07-06-2009, 06:56 AM
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Doesn't this sort of thing fall under "restraint of trade"?
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:57 PM
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Doesn't this sort of thing fall under "restraint of trade"?
Well, I suppose that if the entire auto industry goes belly up, the manufacturers can start selling narcotics.

They've got the business plan down pat.

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Old 08-29-2010, 12:41 AM
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...I just don't think its the the gov's job to intervene.
I agree!

The GOVT tries to interfere WAY TOO MUCH!!
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Old 08-29-2010, 03:26 AM
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The GOVT tries to interfere WAY TOO MUCH!!
That's more or less what it's there for isn't it?
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Old 08-29-2010, 06:35 AM
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I agree!

The GOVT tries to interfere WAY TOO MUCH!!
Yep, we should have let GM fail and let the economy fall further.
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Old 08-29-2010, 07:57 AM
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I've never had a car company tell me where to take my car. I don't THINK I have. But, anyways, it's my car I should have the right to take it anywhere I want.

If the dealer or manufacturer has a problem with it; Oh well, tough crap.

But, I guess that's what makes me a Stalinist Minion of Satans Evil Empire.

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Old 08-29-2010, 09:17 AM
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I agree!

The GOVT tries to interfere WAY TOO MUCH!!
If the government hadn't "interfered" this time, with loans and stock purchases by the way, GM and Chrysler would have gone belly up, throwing all of their workers onto the unemployment rolls. There really was no other option.

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Old 08-29-2010, 09:22 AM
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I think a lot of this has to do with the proprietary software used for each company's OBD II onboard diagnostics computer. If all companies were to use generic OBD II software, any competent mechanic could scan the codes when the Check Engine light comes on. As it is now, a complete annual software update (including data from all manufacturers) is necessary for an independent mechanic to read the codes on all models. This update is very expensive, prohibitively so for small shops.

I think that there is a body of opinion that the auto companies deliberately use proprietary software rather than generic OBD II software in an effort to keep small shops from working on their cars. At least this is the story I get from two friends who own small independent repair shops.
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Old 08-29-2010, 09:41 AM
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I think a lot of this has to do with the proprietary software used for each company's OBD II onboard diagnostics computer. If all companies were to use generic OBD II software, any competent mechanic could scan the codes when the Check Engine light comes on. As it is now, a complete annual software update (including data from all manufacturers) is necessary for an independent mechanic to read the codes on all models. This update is very expensive, prohibitively so for small shops.

I think that there is a body of opinion that the auto companies deliberately use proprietary software rather than generic OBD II software in an effort to keep small shops from working on their cars. At least this is the story I get from two friends who own small independent repair shops.
that certainly sounds like corporate america
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Old 08-30-2010, 01:34 AM
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Ya maybe your right Boreas,im not sure........
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