|
|
We appreciate your help
in keeping this site going.
|
|
07-02-2014, 11:18 AM
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: The Open Border
Posts: 5,126
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
I think that a lot of women will see GOP cheerleading/support of the Hobby Lobby decision as them again being willing accomplices in wealthy, influential men phucking with their rights.
|
Like Bill Clinton signing the "Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993"...Correct?
|
07-02-2014, 11:20 AM
|
|
Reformed Know-Nothing
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MoCo, MD
Posts: 25,916
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
His opinion doesn't matter because he's a billionaire?
Freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of the press - it's all freedom period, all facets of the same jewel. A restriction on one is a restriction on all.
Pete
|
It's not his opinion that is troubling. It's that he's willing to use his own (mythological) beliefs to screw with the benefits of his employees and/or carry the water of the GOP's nihilist agenda.
__________________
As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden.
|
07-02-2014, 11:20 AM
|
|
Resident octogenarian
|
|
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Maryland
Posts: 20,860
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by bhunter
No they didn't. Once again the democrats and their minions expanded the scope of the Citizen United decision to bolster their divisive politics via their so-called "war on corporations." The concept of corporate personhood goes back to the early 1800s. Moreover, that wasn't even the issue wrt Citizen United. The only thing BCRA did: "The Citizens United ruling did however remove the previous ban on corporations and organizations using their treasury funds for direct advocacy. These groups were freed to expressly endorse or call to vote for or against specific candidates, actions that were previously prohibited." A corporation ought have an input into elections as ought unions or other associative groups. Note that all the other parts of McCain-Feingold remained including campaign contributions, limits on foreign contributions, etc.
http://billofrightsinstitute.org/res...ed-v-fec-2010/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_personhood
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen...ion_Commission
|
Then for giggles try this link
http://famguardian.org/Publications/...ts/corpor.html
You migfht brush up on your history.
__________________
Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people.
Eleanor Roosevelt
|
07-02-2014, 11:22 AM
|
|
Resident octogenarian
|
|
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Maryland
Posts: 20,860
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by donquixote99
WTF? In what sense is the state 'telling women they are weak' here? Illogical meme trigger, seems to me....
And god-damn state? Such animosity! Such emotion!
|
could it be?
__________________
Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people.
Eleanor Roosevelt
|
07-02-2014, 12:51 PM
|
|
Loyal Opposition
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Johnson County, Kansas
Posts: 14,401
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
Your statement, of course, is in jest an not universally true. Many liberal women just unfortunately spring ugly parents. Take Chelsea Clinton. Its not her fault that Howdy Doody was cosmetically challenged.
|
I just can't imagine why anyone would think that the Republican Party is populated with misogynists.
And how do women spring parents?
__________________
Then I'll get on my knees and pray,
We won't get fooled again; Don't get fooled again
|
07-02-2014, 01:02 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Metro Detroit
Posts: 13,016
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by d-ray657
I just can't imagine why anyone would think that the Republican Party is populated with misogynists.
And how do women spring parents?
|
...spring FROM... would be the the corrected language.
And in case you've not noticed, ugly is ugly, and knows no gender. On the other hand, you've got similar misogyny on the left: the men here in the forum believing that women without birth control devices are somehow powerless. I'd suggest that's a streaming pile of crap, but its also a pretty interesting insight in how lefty men view women.
|
07-02-2014, 01:08 PM
|
|
Ready
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 19,174
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
...spring FROM... would be the the corrected language.
And in case you've not noticed, ugly is ugly, and knows no gender. On the other hand, you've got similar misogyny on the left: the men here in the forum believing that women without birth control devices are somehow powerless. I'd suggest that's a streaming pile of crap, but its also a pretty interesting insight in how lefty men view women.
|
It's an interesting insight in how you'll say stuff that doesn't have a single thing to do with reality....
|
07-02-2014, 01:21 PM
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 8,310
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
Crock alert. How is covering 16 out of the 20 HHS defined essential contraceptive treatments/devices "dumping their beliefs on others"? And by the way, it could also be said that the HHS regulation of requiring coverage for post-conception birth control was the government "dumping its beliefs" on Hobby Lobby's owners.
|
The crock is between your ears. There are devices and medications in this case that are not "abortifacients" in even the most vague sense of the term.
How TF is a copper wire intrauterine device an abortion, outside of the delusional religiosity of David Green? Because it won't let a fertilized ovum develop into a zygote? Well guess what whell...that makes mother nature the world class abortionist of all time. IUD's are not abortions.
And there are contraceptive medication in this case that are used to treat non-gestation related female reproductive system disorders...endomitriosis, polycystic disease, and certain uterine cancers. The Green family and other delusional religious fanatics want to deny women with these conditions coverage for the most appropriate treatment available because there might be a "morally objectionable" application that somebody else might utilize. Tough shit. It's none of their business.
So OK...let's say David Green decided to be a marignal human being and pontificate that it's OK for women who work for him to get contraceptive medication only if it's gonna be used to treat their endomitriosis. Fuck you Dave, it's none of your goddamn business. It's nobody's business but the woman and her physician.
Last edited by Ike Bana; 07-02-2014 at 01:24 PM.
|
07-02-2014, 01:25 PM
|
Banned
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 8,310
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by donquixote99
It's an interesting insight in how you'll say stuff that doesn't have a single thing to do with reality....
|
Has a lot to do with misogyny though.
|
07-02-2014, 01:45 PM
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 3,554
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
|
I don't often make personal comments, but you sir are an ugly little man. Both in stature and character.
Last edited by MrPots; 07-02-2014 at 01:51 PM.
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:14 PM.
|