I think they're lying. And I think they know it.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by doucanoe

The abuses in our MN Care program would make even your most liberal minded bleeding hearts snarl with anger. I am probably wrong about that but would like to think it would be the case. If people really knew about the abuses and the wasted hundreds of millions annually, their would be blood in the streets.

I don't need supporting documentation for that statement. My wife lives in the heart of the beast as lead nurse (RN) for a very large clinic/hospital.

She used to be very liberal in her politics, but the reality of it all has changed her opinions a tad. The truth of reality trumps blind ideology I guess.

RC

What can I say? Republican greed and corruption.

It's all back to St. Ronnie and the "nine most terrifying words in the English language": "We're from the government and we're here to help." When you have such a cynical view of government it's easy to permit yourself to pillage it for personal gain, from Halliburton to Abramov to "Duke" Cunningham the story's the same.

John

PS: Reality reinforces my "bleeding heart liberalism" every day.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Boreas

What can I say? Republican greed and corruption.

It's all back to St. Ronnie and the "nine most terrifying words in the English language": "We're from the government and we're here to help." When you have such a cynical view of government it's easy to permit yourself to pillage it for personal gain, from Halliburton to Abramov to "Duke" Cunningham the story's the same.

John

PS: Reality reinforces my "bleeding heart liberalism" every day.

Given our insane system the miracle is that government even works at all. Show me any other country that requires an incoming preident to make in excess of 8000 appointments (in the face of a recalcitrant Congress) and it is probably some corrupt dictatorship.

So there is John Q Civilservant trying to do his job and they change management - and direction - every four or eight years.

Then take that collection of imbeciles known as the Senate. One lone senator, old doc Coburn (who once said he was Senator Ensign's OB-Gyn - say what?) can hold up a bill designed to assist veterans from even being debated. One lone barking idiot in a nation of over 300 million people can block legislation from even being discussed, and you call this democracy?
Feh!

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by merrylander

One lone senator, old doc Coburn (who once said he was Senator Ensign's OB-Gyn - say what?)

Yeah, you know, he takes care of Ensign's property.

John

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Yeah, you know, he takes care of Ensign's property.

John

I knew Ensign was a wussie, I guess just change one letter.