Obama Considers Zero Option

icenine · #1 07-08-2013, 08:24 PM

If all Obama does is end the Iraq and Afghanistan mess, bring health care to those who need it and keeps a moron like Perry away from picking Supreme Court justices then his terms have been worth it to me.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/09/wo...stan.html?_r=0

If we can end the sequester I would be pretty happy.

BlueStreak · #2 07-09-2013, 06:49 AM

Four years of watching rightwingers have a hissy-fit and nearly destroy themselves has made it all worth it to me. And the Carnival of Dysfunction is far from over, we have four more years of white-knuckled hand wringing to go...............

Dave

Charles · #3 07-09-2013, 05:59 PM

Well, if he has the guts to order ALL of our troops out of Afghanistan, that will be the high point of his legacy, IMHO.

Can't say I agree with Rob that we should have just turned the place into a glass parking lot, but even that makes more sense than what we've been doing.

Chas

Oerets · #4 07-09-2013, 06:07 PM

Never happen in the foreseeable future. Just a negotiating tactic be my guess.

Barney

noonereal · #5 07-09-2013, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Four years of watching rightwingers have a hissy-fit and nearly destroy themselves has made it all worth it to me. And the Carnival of Dysfunction is far from over, we have four more years of white-knuckled hand wringing to go...............

Dave

they still have fox on in the lunch room at work?

icenine · #6 07-09-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Oerets

Never happen in the foreseeable future. Just a negotiating tactic be my guess.

Barney

No I think we will leave...it is harder to have a smaller force their without the security support they would need. Plus there may be another dispute over a SOFA agreement.

Dondilion · #7 07-09-2013, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles

Well, if he has the guts to order ALL of our troops out of Afghanistan, that will be the high point of his legacy, IMHO.

Can't say I agree with Rob that we should have just turned the place into a glass parking lot, but even that makes more sense than what we've been doing.

Chas

The people there are just set in their ways. Best left alone.

The Soviets tried and failed. We and our allies poured so much arms in the
Pakistan/Afghanistan border that swaths of that section is now ungovernable.
I believed the Pakistanis have now rued the day they help armed the mujas.

In the long run it destabilized their country.

icenine · #8 07-09-2013, 10:24 PM

Actually Pakistan is more of a threat to the US and the region....should it fall to the Pakistan taliban the big question is the nuclear arsenal they have.

Oerets · #9 07-09-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine

Actually Pakistan is more of a threat to the US and the region....should it fall to the Pakistan taliban the big question is the nuclear arsenal they have.

Very good reason to keep forces next door!

Barney

bobabode · #10 07-09-2013, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Charles

Well, if he has the guts to order ALL of our troops out of Afghanistan, that will be the high point of his legacy, IMHO.

Can't say I agree with Rob that we should have just turned the place into a glass parking lot, but even that makes more sense than what we've been doing.

Chas

Kipling was right.