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Old 06-22-2018, 01:59 PM
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Thirty Years On, How Well Do Global Warming Predictions Stand Up?

WSJ article is worth a read.

On the 30th anniversary of Mr. Hansen’s galvanizing testimony, it’s time to acknowledge that the rapid warming he predicted isn’t happening. Climate researchers and policy makers should adopt the more modest forecasts that are consistent with observed temperatures.

That would be a lukewarm policy, consistent with a lukewarming planet.
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It's an op-ed that is behind a paywall, Mike.
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The authors both work for Cato, hardly an institution aligned with scientific consensus.

You can be certain Whell’s favorite wingnut media outlets will be shouting this out, though.
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The authors both work for Cato, hardly an institution aligned with scientific consensus.

You can be certain Whell’s favorite wingnut media outlets will be shouting this out, though.
Why am I not surprised? The Cato Institute formerly known as the Charles Koch Foundation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_Institute
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Old 06-22-2018, 02:26 PM
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Cato does fund some valid research in several areas, but their climate papers have always been the subject of scorn by real climate scientists.
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Old 06-22-2018, 03:56 PM
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Just because you're part of a consensus doesn't necessarily mean your right, but probably does mean that you are at least partially right if not more so.

Can't climate scientists be real if they aren't part of the consensus?
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Interesting segment on today's PBS News Hour

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/wi...urvive-or-sink

Tangier Island is disappearing due to climate change. Yet:

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James “Ooker” Eskridge:

And we can see the effects of erosion daily, weekly for sure. But the sea level rise, things just look the same to me as they did when I was a boy.

I have been working the bay for 50 years, and pretty much day in, day out. And I just don't see any difference in the sea level.

John Yang:

The debate has drawn national attention, largely because 87 percent of the island's voters went for President Trump, a climate change skeptic.

That prompted CNN to visit last summer.

James “Ooker” Eskridge:

I love Trump as much as any family member I got.

John Yang:

After the broadcast, the president called Eskridge and told him the island would be around for hundreds of years more.

Earl Swift:

There's a great distrust of expertise, of scientific expertise.
Moron president* is telling these poor, ignorant folks that the climate change that is, without a shadow of a doubt, destroying their island, is "fake". And they believe the ass, despite the obvious.

Sigh. How is it possible, in the 21st century, in this great country, that anti science fools are so prevalent? It boggles the mind.
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I saw this cartoon when I was about 12 or so and saved it for many years. It showed a computer installation of the time, a big room full of complex equipment, tended by white-coated technicians--the tangible products of the highest achievements of man's society and intellect. One of the technicians is gazing out the window though, where he sees a worker sawing a limb off a tree. The worker is perched on the limb that will be sawed-off.

Organized for smartness, we can be pretty smart. By ourselves, we can be pretty stupid.

And you really have to watch out for organized stupidity.
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Interesting quote just came along....

"People are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education."

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Startling new research finds large buildup of heat in the oceans, suggesting a faster rate of global warming

As if the hurricanes weren’t evidence enough for the idiot deniers, now the oceans are heating, which will result in even more and more potent hurricanes, not to mention killing off sea life. How will Fox “News” report this?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/energ...lobal-warming/
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