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03-12-2012, 05:25 PM
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bottom quarter for sure, misson accomplished was a joke! don't forget he was the decider! and what about that debacle when he was originally up for election when Jeb and that witch Katherine Harris handed him the presidency.
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03-12-2012, 05:37 PM
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Middle of the pack. He was a pretty good political tactician, better than his opponents gave him credit for, as he routinely snookered them. He was to far to the left for my tastes with his domestic agenda, however.
Regarding the war - history will forget that Bush acted on the intelligence assessments that most of this contemporaries and predecessors knew to be "true", at least based on the intelligence he had. Maybe Saddam snookered him, maybe Saddam got the remains for his program out of the country before the invasion, maybe the program never existed. I suspect the truth is somewhere in between, but we may never find out what the truth really is on this one. The grand-standing on the carrier deck doesn't help the historical portrait, either.
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03-12-2012, 06:58 PM
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Regarding the war - history will forget that Bush acted on the intelligence assessments that most of this contemporaries and predecessors knew to be "true"....
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Howzabout "believed to be true?" Even that may be a stretch (e.g., Downing St. memos).
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03-13-2012, 08:06 AM
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For all the vile hate that Obama supporters tossed at Bush, their savior, Obama, now seems to agree with quite a number of Bush policies.
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If I was replacing somone who was hanging on a rope in a well after throwing themselves into it I'd not cut the rope either.
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03-13-2012, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
Regarding the war - history will forget that Bush acted on the intelligence assessments that most of this contemporaries and predecessors knew to be "true", at least based on the intelligence he had. Maybe Saddam snookered him, maybe Saddam got the remains for his program out of the country before the invasion, maybe the program never existed. I suspect the truth is somewhere in between, but we may never find out what the truth really is on this one. The grand-standing on the carrier deck doesn't help the historical portrait, either.
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Iraq was contained regardless of any capabilities he did or did not have. Going to war was insane and only accomplished by lies. Ask sister Sarah, here is a women who ran for the vice presidency of out counry and she though Iraq attacked us on 911.
She thought that because George had tricked her and millions of Americans into believeing it.
This is serious stuff and the guy should be considered the worst president ever and be jailed.
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03-13-2012, 08:13 AM
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This all depends on who writes history now does it not? Look at how Reagan is viewed by many now just to see my point.
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03-13-2012, 09:07 AM
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Hopefully a serious Historian will be heard in years to come and not a bunch of whining partisan hacks (myself included)
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03-13-2012, 10:43 AM
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Hopefully a serious Historian will be heard in years to come and not a bunch of whining partisan hacks (myself included)
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As long as history shows the facts I agree. The facts are that Bush mislead his country so completely that even government officials did not know that Iraq had nothing to do with 911.
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03-13-2012, 11:10 AM
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As long as history shows that Bush was a lying idiot?
Pete
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03-13-2012, 04:36 PM
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As a patsy, a war criminal, a liar, a straw man,a drunkard. Blah, blah, blah.
As a cheerleader who forgot to put on underwear before doing they're routine is my opinion. Look to the House and Senate for the culpable if that's what you're looking for. Afterthought, include SCOTUS in the culpable.
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