Idiots on the march in Virginia

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Go get a job at the American ideal.

Democracy is a belief system that every citizen subscribes to, not a job. Liberty and equality are part of the core beliefs.

When this peace is disturbed, violence erupts. Question for you is who disturbed this peace?

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Chicks

I can't help but believe that millions of red state Trump supporters believe his BS because they are so utterly uneducated, uncultured, and have never really travelled (beyond the typical American tourist traps). Boorish lot.

How you going to keep them
Down on the farm
After they've seen Paris?

Having traveled the US extensively I would venture to state that most of them have not even been outside of their county, let alone the state. Yet they form world opinions from the Alex Jones and Steve Bannon's.

I actually do feel sorry for some of them.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Neo-Nazis and anti-Fascists are not moral equivalents (nor did both start the imbroglio in Charlottesville). The Neo-Nazis came to a lovely, liberal, peaceful and historic college town with malice aforethought directed at the American ideal. Morever, Trump has actively courted Fascists and placed several on his White House staff.

Your post above is false on so many fronts its hard to know where to begin.

Let's try this: if the counter-protesters stayed away from Charlottesville, or stayed on the other side of town completely away from the Neo-Nazi crowd, do you think there would still have been an "imbroglio"?

As far as your "malice - aforethought" comments, the record doesn't favor your there at all. There was a significant amount of pre-planning that was designed to keep a lid on potential violence. However, the counter-protesters that were being imported into Charlottesville to "confront" the protester were a one of the primary concerns of town officials before Saturday. Did the Antifa/BLM folks who came in from out of town buy their black clothes, bandanas and makeshift shields that morning, or did they bring along because they were looking for a fight?

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

You're really on the Trumptrain of false equivalence this morning, Mike.

I get it now. When you're caught being hypocritical, you just accuse the other party in the discussion of engaging in "false equivalence" and "what-aboutery". How convenient for you.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Question for you is who disturbed this peace?

The disturbed folks weren't worried about being peaceful on Saturday.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Your post above is false on so many fronts its hard to know where to begin.

Let's try this: if the counter-protesters stayed away from Charlottesville, or stayed on the other side of town completely away from the Neo-Nazi crowd, do you think there would still have been an "imbroglio"?

As far as your "malice - aforethought" comments, the record doesn't favor your there at all. There was a significant amount of pre-planning that was designed to keep a lid on potential violence. However, the counter-protesters that were being imported into Charlottesville to "confront" the protester were a one of the primary concerns of town officials before Saturday. Did the Antifa/BLM folks who came in from out of town buy their black clothes, bandanas and makeshift shields that morning, or did they bring along because they were looking for a fight?

I so sorry for defaming your peace-loving neo-Nazis. I already said several times that i think it would be better if we just ignored these neo-Nazis. But there are a lot of people whose racial and ethnic backgrounds make the fact that these cretins have been reinvigorated by your Dear Leader and his White House staff very unsettling.

Again, do you find Nazis and anti-Nazis to be morally equivalent?

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by bobabode

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...uments-museums

Skeeter Nation should take a hint from The National Review and get a clue.

Quite right, pretty much agree those that can serve as appropriate historical monuments in an appropriate setting should be sited thus. Shrines to racist politics otoh need go away.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

They tore a statue down in Durham. I wonder how they think that helps anything from a practical standpoint.

Saw that, rather saddening. Passionate venting in response to recent events, I suppose.

[JJIII]

Is no one bothered by the fact that Law Enforcement did nothing to stop vandalism?

[Chicks]

Obama is to blame. Sigh. Idiots. Facebook really needs to clamp down hard on the fake news these folks are using as their primary source of "news".

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...harlottesville