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10-27-2010, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JJIII
It's more than that. It's a matter of life-style, including giving up the idea of instant gratification. We have to have two jobs so we can have two cars and two TVs. Since we have two jobs we don't have time for anything but drive-through junk food..... And the beat goes on!
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Exactly, it's become part of our culture. And watch what happens when you try to change anything like that. Look at what happened when the President simply suggested people keep their tires properly inflated. Think you're going to tell anyone what to eat? Even if you put economic pressure on them, they'll go out, get a third job and continue to eat junk just to spite you. After they've denounced you as a "Food Nazi", of course.
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10-27-2010, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
E coli and salmonella both result from our "factory farms." Should government be involved in policing this, or should we let E Coli and salmonella just weed out those with weak immunities? Maybe this is just the marketplace at work.
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Possibly if the marketplace had a greater fear of class action suits than the FDA which protects them from such suits, we'd have less food contamination issues.
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To my way of thinking, this chit ain't food, it's a manufactured food-like substance - form without substance (or sustenance).
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My personal favorite is the identifier that appears on Kraft American Cheese packages: "Pasteurized processed cheese food."
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10-27-2010, 12:19 PM
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Reformed Know-Nothing
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Originally Posted by whell
My personal favorite is the identifier that appears on Kraft American Cheese packages: "Pasteurized processed cheese food."
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Yep. Kraft American cheese is to cheese what Wonder is to bread, Vienna sausage is to sausage, and Bud/Miller/Coors is to beer - a manufactured and marketed ersatz version of the the real thing. But somehow this stuff sells.
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10-27-2010, 12:40 PM
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Possibly admin. Maybe ;)
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Reminds me of the good Reverend Niemoller.
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I'm not certain I understand. It was simply an anti-facsist warning that seemed apropos.
Pete
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10-27-2010, 12:43 PM
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Administrator
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Thats wrong on so many levels it aint funny.
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10-27-2010, 03:26 PM
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Location: Maryland
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I have coffee first thing in the morning, maybe bad for me but I would be unbearable to live with otherwise. Then I have a bowl of Post Raisin Bran with fat free milk. For lunch most days a bowl of fresh fruit, occassionally a sandwich. Dinner is regular fare, in our case red or green veggies, meat and if potatoes, no bread. Love pasta and with a part Italian wife I guess I had better - her northern style lasagna is to die for.
Sunday mornings for a treat I have regular breakfast - eggs, bacon or sausage, potato cakes, that sort of stuff.
We have fried foods maybe four or five times a year. So far I have managed to lose 15 pounds, from 185 to 170, would love to get to 150 but seem to be stuck at 170. Trans fats? Nah.
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10-27-2010, 05:29 PM
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Loyal Opposition
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Johnson County, Kansas
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Originally Posted by whell
Or "Supersize Me"
Its none of the government's business what I may or may not choose to eat. The food industry doesn't "poison" anyone. I can choose to do the drive through or not. I can choose to buy healthy alternatives or not. I can choose to be responsible or not. This isn't a "victim" issue.
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It's like cigarettes. Companies are profiting by marketing products that are known to be destructive of good health - and they spend billions in advertising them. Advertising is based on social sciences. Products are marketed in a way that has proven to be effective at convincing people of whatever the advertiser wants to convince them of. If one has any doubt about the ability of marketers to convince masses of people, just look at how many people actually believe that Fox is "fair and balanced" or that Beck is actually teaching history.
Regards,
D-Ray
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10-27-2010, 05:58 PM
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
It's like cigarettes. Companies are profiting by marketing products that are known to be destructive of good health - and they spend billions in advertising them. Advertising is based on social sciences. Products are marketed in a way that has proven to be effective at convincing people of whatever the advertiser wants to convince them of. If one has any doubt about the ability of marketers to convince masses of people, just look at how many people actually believe that Fox is "fair and balanced" or that Beck is actually teaching history.
Regards,
D-Ray
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So by watching a commercial I become incapable of making choices?
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10-27-2010, 06:20 PM
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Reformed Know-Nothing
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Originally Posted by whell
So by watching a commercial I become incapable of making choices?
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How about McDonald's marketing to children? Granted, it's the parents who buy Happy Meals. But they do so after their kids beg for it and their parents acquiesce because they're tiring of the whining or they don't want to deprive their kids of the McDonald's "cultural experience." Scoff if you will, but it's true.
Other examples are the candy display at your grocery store checkout and the whole "food is fun" BS from Outback, Chili's, Applebee's and other purveyors of deep fried salty food. Are you jonesing for some Outback Aussie Cheese Fries or a Chili's Awesome Blossom . How does 2,900 calories and 182 grams of fat per order grab you?
Bon Appetit.
And America is not being poisoned? A diet of this chit is every bit as deadly (actually more so) than exposure to hundreds of industrial chemicals (i.e., poisons) at their OSHA Permissible Exposure Limits (PEL). Perhaps I've employed a bit of hyperbole, but not much if you consider the facts.
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10-27-2010, 06:40 PM
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I don't need anyone to make my choices for me.
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