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Old 10-05-2010, 11:27 AM
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I disagree, this started on May 14, 1948.

Who who voted on this day ?
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Old 10-05-2010, 12:02 PM
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He's referring to Israel, and he's not entriely wrong. It did create heightened aggression. Not a slam against Israel, just the truth. It did.

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Old 10-05-2010, 12:05 PM
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He's referring to Israel, and he's not entriely wrong.

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Old 10-05-2010, 12:13 PM
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But when you are fighting enemies who dress like civilians and hide amongst civilians, then expect civilians to get killed. One thing that will eventually do to regular army is cause them to snap after seeing their buddies killed trying to follow such rules of engagement. Then they start killing at random every time there are sniper attacks or IUDs
I was not talking about that. I was talking about, for example, Hiroshima.

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The Taliban are really unfit to live with their stone age ideas of justice.
Seeing as all of what we hear about the Taliban is outright propoganda or so uninformative it may as well be, I suggest that you do not start an argument about this. Especially seeing as you seem to think that, within an entire organisation, all individuals and sub-groups hold to the same ideas.

It should at least be tried. It seems to be practically a certainty that there are less radical elements within the Taliban.

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Since most of the drugs from Afghanistan go to Europe and Russia we probably do gain by destroying their crops.
Gain in what sense? The US-coalition certainly does not gain militarily from it.
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Old 10-05-2010, 02:37 PM
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He's referring to Israel, and he's not entriely wrong. It did create heightened aggression. Not a slam against Israel, just the truth. It did.

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I understood who he was talking about but my question still remains unanswered.
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:00 PM
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I was not talking about that. I was talking about, for example, Hiroshima.
I won't take the bait on this. I won't, I won't I won't!

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It should at least be tried. It seems to be practically a certainty that there are less radical elements within the Taliban.
Though there is no evidence they hold any positions of leadership such that contact or negotiations with these "elements" would be meaningful. Kinda like negotiating with Reid or Pelosi!
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:14 PM
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Heck dropping the bomb saved untold thousands of lives, Japs too.

Anyone expousing Sharia law is a problem for the sane world; and the ME needs a scapegoat.

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Old 10-05-2010, 03:36 PM
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Anyone expousing Sharia law is a problem for the sane world;
For some reason, we didn't seem to mind until about May of this year when that crazy witch lady in NYC decided to go bonkers about the "Ground Zero Mosque."

BTW, I've had many friends who worked in Saudi Arabia since the early '70's on behalf of the American government doing engineering work. There were beheadings, hand-choppings aplenty back then. Nary a word from anyone other than bemusement/disgust at the barbarism, but never the strange hysteria about Sharia being imported to these shores.

I'd venture to say that many of the ditto-heads that are all lathered up about Sharia law never heard of it before Hannity, Limbaugh, etc. started their rants. They probably still can't spell it. BTW, bride-burning in India is far more prevalent than stonings or beheadings in the Middle East. Why isn't the right wing all lathered up about that? I mean Indians have dark skin, live among us, and speak with funny sing-song accents. Should we be freaking out about them too?
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:59 PM
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Heck dropping the bomb saved untold thousands of lives, Japs too.
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I won't take the bait on this. I won't, I won't I won't!
I was not arguing that the USA killing Japanese civilians was either a good or bad thing. I was simply stating that the USA does not hold the moral high ground when it comes to killing civilians.

The argument that killing the Japanese civilians saved more lives than it killed does not come in to it, especially when you stop for a few seconds to consider that the Taliban could use this very same argument for what they are doing.

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Though there is no evidence they hold any positions of leadership
Actually, there is.
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Old 10-05-2010, 11:58 PM
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I understood who he was talking about but my question still remains unanswered.
Oh.

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