Mississippi school omits gay student - Page 2

piece-itpete · #11 09-10-2010, 09:57 AM

Hey, I'm just calling a round short handled shovel a round short handled shovel

Pete

d-ray657 · #12 09-10-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by whell

For example, most public schools now prohibit prayer in one form or another. I guess it should be OK if one student wants to pray that we should just go ahead and let them, rules be damned.

That is a complete misrepresentation of the law. A school can not prevent students from praying. What is not permitted is official prayers conducted by the state-sponsored institution. If a student wants to say grace before a meal, that can not be prohibited. Neither can it be prohibited for for a student to say a little "Help me Allah" before a test. Without researching the issue, I would imagine that a school would have to accommodate a student who wanted to take a break for a particular prayer time, if it was done in a way that did not interfere with the educational mission of the institution.

Regards,

D-Ray

piece-itpete · #13 09-10-2010, 10:47 AM

Agreed. I think the standard is, as long as the student does it of their own accord?

Pete

Boreas · #14 09-10-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete

We have to allow crossdressing in school now or we're homophobes?

Yup! Pretty much. What other reason could there be for not allowing it? Is it insufficiently "dressy"? Too revealing? What? The only reason to oppose it is that it is emblematic of a sexual orientation that the dominant culture in Mississippi finds "distasteful".

As the HuffPo piece mentions, this is the second similar outrage by a Mississippi school. Apparently, tuxes aren't suitable attire for a girl's prom night either.

Well, at least the number of lynchings in Mississippi is way down. I suppose we should all be thankful for that.

John

Boreas · #15 09-10-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Heck I'm not afraid of a bunch of freaks

Pete

I doubt that all of us appreciate your sense of humor, Pete. I don't like to think of my sister as a "freak".

John

whell · #16 09-10-2010, 11:08 AM

You're right, bad example. I retract.

Try this one: if the school has a uniform policy which precludes athletic shoes, and one student decides not to adhere to the policy, should they be allowed?

Boreas · #17 09-10-2010, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by whell

For example, most public schools now prohibit prayer in one form or another. I guess it should be OK if one student wants to pray that we should just go ahead and let them, rules be damned.

That's not an example at all, Whell. Organized school prayer has been deemed inconsistent with the the 1st Amendment's principle of the separation of church and state. It's not a "rule" it's a constitutional principle. As to "one student" wanting to pray in school, that's not forbidden. That's a voluntary individual expression of religious belief.

You and your straw men! I know you're not stupid so I'm forced to conclude that you think we are.

John

OOPS! I see Don beat me to the punch. Damned lawyers!

d-ray657 · #18 09-10-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by whell

You're right, bad example. I retract.

Try this one: if the school has a uniform policy which precludes athletic shoes, and one student decides not to adhere to the policy, should they be allowed?

Perhaps it would be invalid of only boys could wear athletic shoes, or Underarmour, or basketball shorts, or jerseys.

Regards,

D-Ray

noonereal · #19 09-10-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

Well, at least the number of lynchings in Mississippi is way down. I suppose we should all be thankful for that.

John

LOL, now that's the kind of cynical post I enjoy!

noonereal · #20 09-10-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by whell

No, but rules are rules. If the parents don't like to rules, there's a process to petition the school board to change the rules. But there's nothing that suggests, or would be gained, by allowing one student doing whatever he/she wants to do, if school policy / rules dictate otherwise.

For example, most public schools now prohibit prayer in one form or another. I guess it should be OK if one student wants to pray that we should just go ahead and let them, rules be damned.

I'd love for you to show me the rule that says a girl has to be dressed in a dress and a boy in a tux in order to be mentioned in the yearbook.

Whell, why do you personally feel excluding a 12 year student from her yearbook because she is dressed exactly like half the school
is OK?