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Old 07-03-2020, 12:44 PM
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Bbbbbbbut, FREEDOM!
Promise them all the hair cuts and beauty appointments they want and call it
A mask-free zone.
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Old 07-03-2020, 01:06 PM
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The Repub's are finally coming around to what the science says about controlling the pandemic. I hope they don't f it up by relaxing the controls too soon.
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Old 07-03-2020, 02:48 PM
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The idea that putting people on ventilators is what kills people is dangerous and wrong. Here's details for those interested.... https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti.../covid19/86220
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Old 07-03-2020, 06:03 PM
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The idea that putting people on ventilators is what kills people is dangerous and wrong. Here's details for those interested.... https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti.../covid19/86220
A friend of mine was on one for a few weeks. Fine now after a week or two in rehab.

The vent saved his life.

Home now lost a few pounds but alive!
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Old 07-04-2020, 09:02 AM
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The idea that putting people on ventilators is what kills people is dangerous and wrong. Here's details for those interested.... https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti.../covid19/86220
Actually, that is dangerous and wrong. Ventilators prevent you from taking deep breaths and they keep you on your back.

Opinions vary on this:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN2251PE
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...id-19-patients

I see ventilators as a last resort. Kinda like using nukes against the invaders in the movie "Independence day".
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Old 07-04-2020, 09:32 AM
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NO. The main reason people are on ventilators is they CAN'T take deep breaths, becuase of disease, not the ventilator.

And prone position for ventilation is possible, and often recommended.

https://litfl.com/prone-position-and...l-ventilation/

Stop giving medical advice or finish med school first. This is not the sort of thing that should be politicized. Exploitation of anti-authority sentiment in this area is demagoguery at it's worst, because it directly causes physical suffering and death.
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Old 07-04-2020, 12:03 PM
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A story of having COVID-19.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...25191&sfnsn=mo
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Old 07-05-2020, 11:21 AM
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COVID-19 BAR CHART

https://twitter.com/i/status/1277509537226842113
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Old 07-05-2020, 02:19 PM
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I'm beginning to think tRump is insane. He's doddering on like he actually does hope Covid-19 will "just disappear". He's insisting that the outbreak is under control. He's sticking to the "theory" that the numbers are going up only because "we've done more testing than anyone else in the whole wide world". He won't discuss that we're persona non grata in most all of Europe. He ignores that our numbers are higher than anywhere else on the planet and we have a number of states that have higher totals than quite a few countries. On one hand he says the economy is roaring back but then says he's contemplating another stimulus package. I seriously think He's gone 'round the bend.
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Old 07-06-2020, 08:29 AM
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Trump-connected lobbyists reap windfall in federal virus aid

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump...094549760.html

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Forty lobbyists with ties to President* Donald Trump helped clients secure more than $10 billion in federal coronavirus aid, among them five former administration officials whose work potentially violates Trump's own ethics policy, according to a report.

The lobbyists identified Monday by the watchdog group Public Citizen either worked in the Trump executive branch, served on his campaign, were part of the committee that raised money for inaugural festivities or were part of his presidential transition. Many are donors to Trump’s campaigns, and some are prolific fundraisers for his reelection.
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