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Why Ideological Loyalty is Irrational
People aren't really rational; reason, like everything else in political discourse, is mainly used tactically to discredit the opposition.
Lot's of psychological studies support this. Explains a lot.
From New Yorker: Why Facts Don't Change Our Minds
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04-16-2019, 01:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donquixote99
People aren't really rational; reason, like everything else in political discourse, is mainly used tactically to discredit the opposition.
Lot's of psychological studies support this. Explains a lot.
From New Yorker: Why Facts Don't Change Our Minds
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If people suspect you are basically against them why should they listen to you.
The knowledge that propaganda is a big part of the system compounds the problem.
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04-16-2019, 06:13 AM
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If people suspect you are basically against them why should they listen to you.
The knowledge that propaganda is a big part of the system compounds the problem.
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Well it's useless for me to comment I suppose....
Turns out Whell's idea of how to use a message board is best.
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04-16-2019, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
If people suspect you are basically against them why should they listen to you.
The knowledge that propaganda is a big part of the system compounds the problem.
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Excellent point.
BTW, has the recent discourse on American Fascism helped your understanding?
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04-16-2019, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Well it's useless for me to comment I suppose....
Turns out Whell's idea of how to use a message board is best.
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What is whell's idea on how to use this site? Other than venting his anger.
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04-16-2019, 09:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donquixote99
People aren't really rational; reason, like everything else in political discourse, is mainly used tactically to discredit the opposition.
Lot's of psychological studies support this. Explains a lot.
From New Yorker: Why Facts Don't Change Our Minds
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This is psychological knee jerk reaction. Our behaviour is emotionally based and our parents did their best to teach/train us control. There is a really good reason not to discuss religion or politics.
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04-16-2019, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by nailer
Excellent point.
BTW, has the recent discourse on American Fascism helped your understanding?
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To some degree.
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04-16-2019, 10:30 AM
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Excellent point.
BTW, has the recent discourse on American Fascism helped your understanding?
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You two are nearly as much fun as Whell, lol.
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04-16-2019, 11:16 AM
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What is whell's idea on how to use this site? Other than venting his anger.
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Whell's idea is to bash the opposition using any weapon that comes to hand, even reason occasionally. But on no account may one ever,ever accept the reasoning of one's enemies.
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04-16-2019, 01:12 PM
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Whell's idea is to bash the opposition using any weapon that comes to hand, even reason occasionally. But on no account may one ever,ever accept the reasoning of one's enemies.
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An answer cemented in ideology.
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