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11-30-2011, 10:35 PM
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Yup, doin the Lords work.
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12-01-2011, 12:17 AM
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That's what you got? Weak attempt at deflection when you have to dig up a crazy dude with a flock of forty in Kentucky.
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12-01-2011, 12:35 AM
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Whether the constitutional framers were motivated by their religious faith in working to found the country is irrelevant to the question of whether the government can take action for the purpose of promoting purely religious goals. The First Amendment prohibits government action promoting religion. Requiring that the phrase "In God We Trust" be displayed on all motor vehicles has a religious purpose on its face. It invokes trust in a supreme being. It is therefore improper - indeed a violation of the First Amendment. It is a violation first because it requires the expenditure of public funds to promote a religious message - trust in the supreme being. Second it requires citizens to display that religious message or pay a penalty for failing to do so.
I'm in the camp the believes that the legislator knows his proposal violates the First Amendment but he isn't going to let that minor inconvenience get in the way of his pandering.
Regards,
D-Ray
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12-01-2011, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bhunter
They're actually taxing the vehicle as property by a percentage? That would be a damn good reason to have and use the least valuable car you can find. I thought you were referencing real estate in your original tax. Please don't tell this tax scheme to the California Assembly. BTW, what's your sales tax rate?
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7%.
11.5% on prepared meals, I guess the commonwealth feels it deserves a tip too.
But, we do have the best hams in the world.
Dave
P.S. The natives here have a nice little saying; "Virginia is a commonwealth. That means, if you aint wealthy, they're gonna treat you common as shit."
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12-01-2011, 07:27 AM
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"As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden."
The roots of this country are Christian.
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Hey Finn, a guy from Wassila is quoting Chauncey Gardner..........
Think about it.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
Dave
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12-01-2011, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
Whether the constitutional framers were motivated by their religious faith in working to found the country is irrelevant to the question of whether the government can take action for the purpose of promoting purely religious goals. The First Amendment prohibits government action promoting religion. Requiring that the phrase "In God We Trust" be displayed on all motor vehicles has a religious purpose on its face. It invokes trust in a supreme being. It is therefore improper - indeed a violation of the First Amendment. It is a violation first because it requires the expenditure of public funds to promote a religious message - trust in the supreme being. Second it requires citizens to display that religious message or pay a penalty for failing to do so.
I'm in the camp the believes that the legislator knows his proposal violates the First Amendment but he isn't going to let that minor inconvenience get in the way of his pandering.
Regards,
D-Ray
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F**kin', eh! Spot on and absolutely correct!
WORD!
Dave
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12-01-2011, 07:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d-ray657
I'm in the camp the believes that the legislator knows his proposal violates the First Amendment but he isn't going to let that minor inconvenience get in the way of his pandering.
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While I don't disagree with you, I'm in the camp that believes that when folks dial up the ACLU when townsfolk or city employees decide to put up a creche on the corner of the city's court house lawn, they also know that it is not the city's attempt to establish a local religion. It also doesn't change the fact that the US government has "secularized" the phrase "In God We Trust" by making it the national motto.
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12-01-2011, 07:59 AM
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While I don't disagree with you, I'm in the camp that believes that when folks dial up the ACLU when townsfolk or city employees decide to put up a creche on the corner of the city's court house lawn, they also know that it is not the city's attempt to establish a local religion. It also doesn't change the fact that the US government has "secularized" the phrase "In God We Trust" by making it the national motto.
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They are not doing that this year in DC because they could not find three wise men. I believe that they are still looking for a virgin, however they have more than enough jackasses for the stable.
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12-01-2011, 08:00 AM
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Reading all the quotations posted here one thing that really shows is the absolute arrogance of Christians in suggesting the non-Christians cannot possess moral values, what absolute BS.
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12-01-2011, 08:01 AM
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They are not doing that this year in DC because they could not find three wise men. I believe that they are still looking for a virgin, however they have more than enough jackasses for the stable.
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A large portion of them can be found in the Senate, with teabags glued to their heads.
Dave
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