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02-12-2017, 09:28 AM
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Smart guy this dude. Way ahead of his time.
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02-12-2017, 10:07 AM
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Smart guy this dude. Way ahead of his time.
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So, question about this:
While the people are going about their true business of being in school, who's going to build and maintian the classrooms, make the books, whiteboards, projectors, etc for the classrooms, make the clothes that folks wear to class, make and deliver the food the students eat, etc....?
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02-12-2017, 11:56 AM
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So, question about this:
While the people are going about their true business of being in school, who's going to build and maintian the classrooms, make the books, whiteboards, projectors, etc for the classrooms, make the clothes that folks wear to class, make and deliver the food the students eat, etc....?
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We will need a few workers bees.
To make it fair, we'll set it up like the military. Everybody will have a worker bee obligation of two years. You'll have the option of enlisting into the worker bees. And you will be assigned to be trained and serve in some capacity that meets society's needs. You'll get extra pay of course so you'll have more money than the couch potatoes. And if you like it you can re-enlist and make a career out of it. Also, we will need a draft for those hard to fill positions. So you might get drafted and have to spend two years cleaning public rest rooms. That would suck, but it would only be for two years. Then you could go back to chillin on the couch.
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02-12-2017, 06:21 PM
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We will need a few workers bees.
To make it fair, we'll set it up like the military. Everybody will have a worker bee obligation of two years. You'll have the option of enlisting into the worker bees. And you will be assigned to be trained and serve in some capacity that meets society's needs. You'll get extra pay of course so you'll have more money than the couch potatoes. And if you like it you can re-enlist and make a career out of it. Also, we will need a draft for those hard to fill positions. So you might get drafted and have to spend two years cleaning public rest rooms. That would suck, but it would only be for two years. Then you could go back to chillin on the couch.
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You realize that these statements are far more radical than anything Marx envisioned. At least he believed workers and work had virtue, even though he never worked all that hard himself.
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02-12-2017, 07:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Joad
We will need a few workers bees.
To make it fair, we'll set it up like the military. Everybody will have a worker bee obligation of two years. You'll have the option of enlisting into the worker bees. And you will be assigned to be trained and serve in some capacity that meets society's needs. You'll get extra pay of course so you'll have more money than the couch potatoes. And if you like it you can re-enlist and make a career out of it. Also, we will need a draft for those hard to fill positions. So you might get drafted and have to spend two years cleaning public rest rooms. That would suck, but it would only be for two years. Then you could go back to chillin on the couch.
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You sound like Pol Pot.
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02-13-2017, 08:21 AM
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You realize that these statements are far more radical than anything Marx envisioned. At least he believed workers and work had virtue, even though he never worked all that hard himself.
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You sound like Pol Pot.
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Go big or go home, that's my motto.
I prefer to look at it as "thinking outside the box".
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02-13-2017, 09:40 AM
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This is one of the better articles I've read on the rationale for a guaranteed minimum income. Although she does propose funding it with taxes, while Don recommends quantitative easing which I think is a good idea too.
http://www.newslogue.com/debate/337/CaitlinJohnstone
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02-13-2017, 05:55 PM
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Go big or go home, that's my motto.
I prefer to look at it as "thinking outside the box".
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Nah, I think you're still inside the box.
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02-15-2017, 05:02 PM
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Nah, I think you're still inside the box.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvwqK2gn3S0
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02-12-2017, 10:08 AM
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Really extraordinary fellow...Mr outstairs-instairs.
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