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12-02-2010, 07:22 PM
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Pukka - I've already stipulated its existence. The question is, from a realistic and pragmatic point-of-view, how to we do something meaningful and cost effective that every industrialized country is going to buy into or for which similar expenditures in other critical areas won't yield more tangible benefit?
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12-03-2010, 09:53 AM
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I was riding in the car with my brother one day. He looked out the window at farmland being converted into McMansionland and asked; "How long can that go on?"
A simple but profound question, I should say.
Problem is; What do you do about it? Sterilize people? Good luck with that.
Dave
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12-03-2010, 09:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
I was riding in the car with my brother one day. He looked out the window at farmland being converted into McMansionland and asked; "How long can that go on?"
A simple but profound question, I should say.
Problem is; What do you do about it? Sterilize people? Good luck with that.
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In this particular instance, the problem isn't overpopulation, per se, but overconsumption. Do couples with no kids (or 1-2 kids) really need 7000 sq. ft. houses on 1/2 acre lots located 30 miles from where they work (along with a Lincoln Navigator for the commute)?
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12-03-2010, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
In this particular instance, the problem isn't overpopulation, per se, but overconsumption. Do couples with no kids (or 1-2 kids) really need 7000 sq. ft. houses on 1/2 acre lots located 30 miles from where they work (along with a Lincoln Navigator for the commute)?
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But, Finn. Don't we have a constitutional right to giant, oversized, luxury vehicles and gluttonous overconsumption? Wasn't that one of the founding principles of our Great Nation? It is my right as a True Patriot to drive to the corner 7-11, a grand total of 1/8th of a mile to get a Slurpee and 'tater chips! FREEDOM, FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dave
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12-03-2010, 10:24 AM
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But, Finn. Don't we have a constitutional right to giant, oversized, luxury vehicles and gluttonous overconsumption? Wasn't that one of the founding principles of our Great Nation? It is my right as a True Patriot to drive to the corner 7-11, a grand total of 1/8th of a mile to get a Slurpee and 'tater chips! FREEDOM, FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Only if you buy it on credit.
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12-03-2010, 11:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
I was riding in the car with my brother one day. He looked out the window at farmland being converted into McMansionland and asked; "How long can that go on?"
A simple but profound question, I should say.
Problem is; What do you do about it? Sterilize people? Good luck with that.
Dave
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Don't knock it, drives up the value of our land
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12-03-2010, 10:43 AM
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I 100% agree with Pukka on population.
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12-03-2010, 11:02 AM
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I 100% agree with Pukka on population.
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Remember, however, that it is at least as much a function of increased life expectancy as birth rate. When we were an agrarian society, we had a much higher birth rate, but a much lower life expectancy. The pressure comes from both ends of the life cycle, but that doesn't mean we are going to create death panels. We're just going to start making everyone retire to the coal mines.
Regards,
D-Ray
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12-04-2010, 07:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d-ray657
Remember, however, that it is at least as much a function of increased life expectancy as birth rate. When we were an agrarian society, we had a much higher birth rate, but a much lower life expectancy. The pressure comes from both ends of the life cycle, but that doesn't mean we are going to create death panels. We're just going to start making everyone retire to the coal mines.
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Subsistence farming, the fastest growing job opportunity in the 21st century.
The greenhouse may become the latest fashion statement.
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12-04-2010, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles
Subsistence farming, the fastest growing job opportunity in the 21st century.
The greenhouse may become the latest fashion statement.
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I know I have 12 acres sitting unfarmed so it can become organic certified
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