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Old 12-19-2023, 06:39 PM
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Trump was never going to get Colorado’s electoral college votes anyway.

If this goes to the Supreme Court I would not be shocked if Trump loses.
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Old 12-20-2023, 09:33 AM
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If this goes to the Supreme Court I would not be shocked if Trump loses.
Same, I don't see him losing the appeal. And most of the talking head legal experts I heard on the radio this morning said they would not be surprised if the SCOTUS was unanimous for Trump.

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Old 12-20-2023, 11:22 AM
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Trump was never going to get Colorado’s electoral college votes anyway.

If this goes to the Supreme Court I would not be shocked if Trump loses.
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Same, I don't see him losing the appeal. And most of the talking head legal experts I heard on the radio this morning said they would not be surprised if the SCOTUS was unanimous for Trump.
After reading more on this, now I am betting the SCOTUS will reverse this very easily. Michigan ruled that since primary elections are a private affair conducted by the duopoly, the secretary of state has no legal grounds to interfere. I had forgotten that primaries are not state sanctioned elections, so Trump will get a reversal on this. The risk is that if they uphold this, another fifteen states or so will follow suit leading to serious civil consequences.

On the other hand, I do wish a lot of other states follow suit before SCOTUS makes their ruling.

Perhaps the Colorado's justices have accomplished what they set out to accomplish, determining that Trump is an Insurrectionist and a Traitor.
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Old 12-20-2023, 11:46 AM
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Old 12-20-2023, 12:27 PM
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After reading more on this, now I am betting the SCOTUS will reverse this very easily. Michigan ruled that since primary elections are a private affair conducted by the duopoly, the secretary of state has no legal grounds to interfere. I had forgotten that primaries are not state sanctioned elections, so Trump will get a reversal on this. The risk is that if they uphold this, another fifteen states or so will follow suit leading to serious civil consequences.

On the other hand, I do wish a lot of other states follow suit before SCOTUS makes their ruling.

Perhaps the Colorado's justices have accomplished what they set out to accomplish, determining that Trump is an Insurrectionist and a Traitor.
If he had been charged it may stick. But without charges or a conviction he did not insurrect
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Old 12-20-2023, 12:41 PM
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If he had been charged it may stick. But without charges or a conviction he did not insurrect
He was impeached so that covers charges. Also the way that it is written in the 14th amendment leaves out convicted IIRC. At the time it was passed they had just went through dealing with insurrection and saw the need to suspend this need be a good guess.
Not a lawyer and will defer to a more learned one.
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Old 12-20-2023, 12:48 PM
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He was impeached so that covers charges. Also the way that it is written in the 14th amendment leaves out convicted IIRC. At the time it was passed they had just went through dealing with insurrection and saw the need to suspend this need be a good guess.
Not a lawyer and will defer to a more learned one.
I do not disagree at all. Haven't heard a learned one say the 14th will stick to him yet today.

Edit: I am sure I could find a team blue lawyer that says it will stick if I looked.
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Old 12-20-2023, 12:58 PM
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I do not disagree at all. Haven't heard a learned one say the 14th will stick to him yet today.

Edit: I am sure I could find a team blue lawyer that says it will stick if I looked.
How about one of the most respected conservatives from the Federalist Society, a former judge?

Judge Luttig: Yesterday’s decision was a historic, constitutional decision
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/wa...n-200628805719
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