“Non Partisan” Primary in California

[Oerets]

Not silly as some say but could lead to a one party system I will be watching this one.

Could end up with some interesting opponents in the fall.

http://capoliticalnews.com/2012/06/0...mary-is-silly/



Barney

[bobabode]

Hey Barney, I've had my brains in the pickling jar as you know of late. I have to say I haven't paid much attention to this latest wrinkle in California elections.
I've pretty much been a sceptic of our initiative led style of governance. I'll even admit to being a bit rude to the signature gatherers outside most big box retailers. Yeah, those poor schmoes are paid a buck a signature and I don't begrudge it unless they miss the obvious signs that I'm not interested in signing any of their dozens of wacked out propostions. It really isn't the representational democracy that I learned about in jr. high is how I feel.
Anyhow, sorry for rambling off track in this fashion and thanks for the heads up.

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Hey Barney, I've had my brains in the pickling jar as you know of late. I have to say I haven't paid much attention to this latest wrinkle in California elections.
I've pretty much been a sceptic of our initiative led style of governance. I'll even admit to being a bit rude to the signature gatherers outside most big box retailers. Yeah, those poor schmoes are paid a buck a signature and I don't begrudge it unless they miss the obvious signs that I'm not interested in signing any of their dozens of wacked out propostions. It really isn't the representational democracy that I learned about in jr. high is how I feel.
Anyhow, sorry for rambling off track in this fashion and thanks for the heads up.

I only talk to them if they're good looking women. I had one college environmentalist follow me across the parking lot telling me about the significance of her cause. The poor girl was disheartened when I climb into my SUV.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by bhunter

I only talk to them if they're good looking women. I had one college environmentalist follow me across the parking lot telling me about the significance of her cause. The poor girl was disheartened when I climb into my SUV.

Reminds me of back in the primaries. Me and a repub were tag teaming this gal who set up her Ron Paul booth in front of the local post office, complete with a big poster of the President with a hitler moustache. I started off with, "You ought to be ashamed of yourself, have you ever read a history book? How dare you?" The repub called her a wack job in need of a tar an' feathering.
We commiserated a little walking back to our cars with him saying "If some don't like the Prez vote him out but leave that Nazi shit out of it." I laughingly asked him how did he like the primary sideshow? He said," I'm not voting Democratic if that's where you're going with this." I told him you can't blame a liberal for trying...

[mezz]

For some inter-party dissent to enjoy this time around check out the Colorado US Senate race where Obama's gone all out for Bennet and Bill Clinton has weighed in for Romanoff. The same thing is playing out in New Jersey with Steve Rothman and Bill Pascrell. This president is still weakening and it's getting more obvious that Bill Clinton seems to be positioning his bets on a post Obama political landscape being in place at the end of 2012.

[merrylander]

Keep dreaming mezz.

last night on PBS Newshour Clinton endorsed Obama highly and said that while Mitt was a good businessman and had been a governor his policies would be a disaster.

[mezz]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Keep dreaming mezz.

last night on PBS Newshour Clinton endorsed Obama highly and said that while Mitt was a good businessman and had been a governor his policies would be a disaster.

It's been looking more an more like Bill has some deep seated issues with Obama. Perhaps those stem from the Obama campaign pulling the race card on Hillary in the 2008 primary. Bill can get mighty bristly when people start implying he might be racist when he's spent a political career building up a reputation that he was anything but. Mr. Clinton does not forget. Plus he's a balanced budget type of guy and I cannot imagine him actually being on board with Obama's runaway train spending spree policies.

In any event Clinton has to tow the line enough to not invoke the wrath of the Democratic party and pay the political consequences (like Ted Kennedy did when he got blamed for going against Carter). He's looking forward to a post-Obama democratic party again and hoping for another Clinton to run in 2016. I believe he's got some real distaste for Obama and he's been jabbing at him here and there where he can. Clinton does not expect Obama to win in November and he wants to be on the fence enough to step into the power vacuum within the dem party when Obama falls hard.

Ask yourself where is Hillary during this campaign. She's awol. That is certainly no accident. The Obama - Clinton relationship is tenuous at best. Watch for it to be over come November if (when) Obama loses.

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by mezz

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In any event Clinton has to tow the line enough to not invoke the wrath of the Democratic party and pay the political consequences

Why? He only drew 900 people in Racine.

[whell]

Originally Posted by mezz

Ask yourself where is Hillary during this campaign. She's awol. That is certainly no accident. The Obama - Clinton relationship is tenuous at best. Watch for it to be over come November if (when) Obama loses.

Seriously? I'd think it would be highly irregular if a Sec'y of State, any Sec'y of State, for any President, were to be found out on the campaign trail. I don't recall Condi Rice, James Baker, Maddy Albright or Larry Eagleberger on the campaign trail at any point. Maybe the Sunday AM talking head shows, but that's about it.

In this case,there's a war on, tensions with Syria, Iran, the Ruskies... I'd think her dance card is pretty full.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by whell

Seriously? I'd think it would be highly irregular if a Sec'y of State, any Sec'y of State, for any President, were to be found out on the campaign trail. I don't recall Condi Rice, James Baker, Maddy Albright or Larry Eagleberger on the campaign trail at any point. Maybe the Sunday AM talking head shows, but that's about it.

In this case,there's a war on, tensions with Syria, Iran, the Ruskies... I'd think her dance card is pretty full.

So, do you think that bipartisanship is still possible in foreign policy?

Regards,

D-Ray