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Old 08-16-2017, 08:21 AM
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"This tube is the most awesome goddamn force in the whole godless world, and woe is us if it ever falls into the hands of the wrong people!”

40 years later, it's very much in the hands of Rupert Murdock et al, very much the wrong people.
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:40 AM
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It was the vast majority of the citizens of Charlottesville were peaceful in the midst of the unnecessary onslaught by the armed neo-Nazis. The events on Saturday in Charlottesville were not about a statue. The residents of Charlottesville are perfectly capable of determining whether a statue in their city should stay or go without any help from the rest of us.

On Saturday, Charlottesville was invaded by an army of thugs intent on making trouble. And they did, including killing a woman and injuring a number of other people. What happened in Charlottesville was a blatant display of bigotry on the part of the the alt-right, KKK, and neo-Nazis. They marched under Nazi flags, gave Nazi salutes, dressed in KKK regalia, and chanted racist and antisemitic slogans. They also arrived armed and equipped for confrontation. Your efforts to draw an equivalency between them and those who oppose him is both laughable and disgusting, as is your President.
Your entirely one-sided account just reinforces your bias, and that you're unable to have a rational discussion about this. Alternatively, here's a compilation of witness accounts. Sounds like a lot of bad behavior and "malice aforethought" on both sides to me.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...815-story.html

As much as the white-supremacist crowd should rightfully be reviled, they had a right to be there, and that right was confirmed by court order prior to Saturday. If folks had just ignored them, this would not have been a national story. Sadly, a very sick man with a history of mental illness drove his car into a crowd of counter-protesters and killed someone, and injured others. The violence was already out of hand by then, however.

No one is trying to "equate" anything here. But before we can understand the true nature of an issue, there has to be a way to look at it objectively and honestly.
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:43 AM
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This is how a real President addresses what happened in Charlottesville:
Tweeting a Nelson Mandella quote makes someone a "real President"? Who knew it was that easy?
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:44 AM
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The number of black people who hate white people because of the color of their skin overwhelmingly outpaces any white hate of blacks.

No one is born believing anything other than I'm hungry. Obama is a real genius.
Not sure how this statement is helpful, or if its even true. You have a source for this statistic?
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:46 AM
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As much as the white-supremacist crowd should rightfully be reviled, they had a right to be there, and that right was confirmed by court order prior to Saturday. If folks had just ignored them, this would not have been a national story. Sadly, a very sick man with a history of mental illness drove his car into a crowd of counter-protesters and killed someone, and injured others. The violence was already out of hand by then, however.
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People ignored Hitler and millions died.

The man who drove the car was just one of many men with mental illness in that crowd.

Only a person with no moral center would make a statement such as you have made. And trump's total lack of a moral center is why he also doesn't see the problem with the KKK and white supremacists.
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:55 AM
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"This tube is the most awesome goddamn force in the whole godless world, and woe is us if it ever falls into the hands of the wrong people!”

40 years later, it's very much in the hands of Rupert Murdock et al, very much the wrong people.
It's in the hands of corporations.
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Old 08-16-2017, 09:10 AM
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Tweeting a Nelson Mandella quote makes someone a "real President"? Who knew it was that easy?
Maybe the current fake president ought to give it a try, though he's beyond redemption at this point. Your continued support for the Nazi sympathizer makes you equally deplorable. You would have been a Good German. Sad!
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Old 08-16-2017, 09:10 AM
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Your entirely one-sided account just reinforces your bias, and that you're unable to have a rational discussion about this. Alternatively, here's a compilation of witness accounts. Sounds like a lot of bad behavior and "malice aforethought" on both sides to me.



http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...815-story.html



As much as the white-supremacist crowd should rightfully be reviled, they had a right to be there, and that right was confirmed by court order prior to Saturday. If folks had just ignored them, this would not have been a national story. Sadly, a very sick man with a history of mental illness drove his car into a crowd of counter-protesters and killed someone, and injured others. The violence was already out of hand by then, however.



No one is trying to "equate" anything here. But before we can understand the true nature of an issue, there has to be a way to look at it objectively and honestly.


There you go. You, like your President, are a Nazi sympathizer or at a minimum an enabler. Congrats.
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Old 08-16-2017, 09:22 AM
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People ignored Hitler and millions died.
Enough with the histrionics! Are you seriously comparing a legal march in the park with the Holocaust?!?
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Old 08-16-2017, 09:25 AM
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There you go. You, like your President, are a Nazi sympathizer or at a minimum an enabler. Congrats.
And you are completely out of your mind, or at minimum, an ass. Congrats.
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