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Old 05-14-2012, 08:32 PM
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The Real Mitt Romney

Enjoy watching this lying, flip-flopping gas bag run his mouth. And think of the 180 degree "pivot". Politics? You bet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI&eurl
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Old 05-14-2012, 08:49 PM
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Outside the 4 walls of his home, I'm not sure there is a real Mitt Romney.

However, I have it on good authority that he likes lakes, trees and cars.
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Old 05-15-2012, 02:42 AM
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Enjoy watching this lying, flip-flopping gas bag run his mouth. And think of the 180 degree "pivot". Politics? You bet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI&eurl
After reading that line, I thought it referred to Obama's Gay marriage talk. OH, BTW, it was all talk. I guess when it's Obama it is just an evolution of policy.
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Old 05-15-2012, 08:58 AM
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It's one thing to have voted for Obama back in 2008 without having seen the real Obama (sounds like an oxymoron), but having now seen the real Obama I'm pretty comfortable giving just about anyone else a shot for the next four years. So say whatever you like about Romney, this election is not about who Romney is or what he's done as most of that is yet to be seen, it's about who Obama is and what he's done. The Obama people know this and that's why they are trying to change the subject all of the time. I don't think it's going to work. This election is pretty simple, Obama's been mediocre at best, a huge failure at worst. Anywhere in between means that it's time to vote for change.

Gee, that sounds familiar doesn't it. Obama the pathetic.
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Old 05-15-2012, 09:51 AM
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It's one thing to have voted for Obama back in 2008 without having seen the real Obama (sounds like an oxymoron), but having now seen the real Obama I'm pretty comfortable giving just about anyone else a shot for the next four years.
Same logic applied to the 2004 and Dubya, a much worse President than Obama by most measures, was reelected. The advantages or incumbency cannot be overstated in Presidential elections. Were this not true, the people that most Republicans prefer (Christie, Mitch Daniels, etc.) would have chosen to run. They are, however, keeping their powder dry for 2016 when they won't have to face an incumbent.
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Same logic applied to the 2004 and Dubya, a much worse President than Obama by most measures, was reelected. The advantages or incumbency cannot be overstated in Presidential elections. Were this not true, the people that most Republicans prefer (Christie, Mitch Daniels, etc.) would have chosen to run. They are, however, keeping their powder dry for 2016 when they won't have to face an incumbent.
There is an incumbent advantage, but the candidate the Democrats put forth in 2004, John Kerry, was not ideal. The left has their illusions about Bush having been some kind of bad or unpopular president when the facts are that Obama's support from congress (across both aisles) and his approval ratings with the public have indeed been well below those of G.W. He's been nothing really but a lot of talk. Empty promises mixed with outright lies. The public isn't as stupid as the Obama people are hoping and of all the Republican candidates who could have succeeded, Romney was the most moderate and is the best positioned to win the presidency. He might not have been my first choice or that of a lot of conservatives, but he will be the choice of a lot of independents and he'll capture the middle which is all he's gonna need. Obama is a lefty radical compared to Romney's position along the political the spectrum. Romney successfully led one most liberal states in the union as governor for four years. Obama's policies and lack of integrity have left the country in need of a change. Incumbent advantage noted, Obama is poised to circumvent that and we could be looking at a sound win for Romney. Look at the polls since the race got down to two. Obama's trending down.
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There is an incumbent advantage, but the candidate the Democrats put forth in 2004, John Kerry, was not ideal....
Nor is The Mittster, BTW.
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It's one thing to have voted for Obama back in 2008 without having seen the real Obama (sounds like an oxymoron), but having now seen the real Obama I'm pretty comfortable giving just about anyone else a shot for the next four years.
I have no issues with any critiquing of public figures but this is an argument I've just not understood: it seems to me that President Obama was pretty up front about what he'd do from the Executive and has taken every reasonable effort to produce such.

Not liking what has occurred is one thing (which I still disagree with but this is America) but pretending it was a secret since the Democratic primaries strikes me as ridiculous.
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Old 05-15-2012, 02:14 PM
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I have no issues with any critiquing of public figures but this is an argument I've just not understood: it seems to me that President Obama was pretty up front about what he'd do from the Executive and has taken every reasonable effort to produce such.

Not liking what has occurred is one thing (which I still disagree with but this is America) but pretending it was a secret since the Democratic primaries strikes me as ridiculous.
My problem with Obama has primarily revolved around the lack of integrity and leadership qualities which adversely affect his ability to effectively do his job. I understand that being president of the US is a little like trying to steer an oil tanker with a 20 inch wooden wheel, but this president has simply made a lot of promises (way too many) and failed to deliver. Whether it be through lack of experience or simply arrogance, he is described by insiders as aloof and very insulated within Washington, failing to do the legwork which is required to accomplish initiatives in a democrativc system. He has repeatedly failed, when opportunities abound, to take a principled stance on much of anything. His values seem fluent and his principles seem for sale. I understand that it takes a politican to get where he is, but he doesn`t seem to understand the power and responsibility of his office. His petty bragging, empty speeches, and divisive hypocrisy are far beneath what should be expected from the most powerful office in the world. He has continued to act like a small bit local politician in city government somewhere. He is clearly no uniter and is definitelty not post partisan (as he tried to pass himself off in `08) and his performance (or non-performance) on the economy and his record breaking runaway deficit spending has been nearly criminal.

The newsmedia hasn`t been objective or truthful regarding Obama. Compare him to some other presidents in the way he acts and with what he has actually accomplished. He simply does not measure up and it is a tragedy for the country which apparently had so much hope.

For those who aren`t sure about Romney, he is even worth a poker gamble considering what we have going on now. You`ve gotta know when to fold em and Obama`s poker hand has been bluffed as far as it can be. Simply time for some new cards. Nothing personal (although you can bet this desperate campaign will be... and Obama`s probably not going to come out looking like a nice guy).
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"Romney successfully led one most liberal states in the union as governor for four years."

Yes, especially what he did with their healthcare. I hear it's very popular. Maybe the same should be done on a natio..........Oh.
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