Elon Musk started a price war that Tesla can't win

[Dondilion]

The legacy manufacturers cannot sell their cars and trucks.Truck prices were $60k to $90k MSRP. WTF.

For instance Dodge Rams are piling up.
Said manufacturers also were reluctant to build affordable cars. Their desire is to build trucks which have hefty profit margins. However, the economics of the consumer cannot support the prices.
Elon is correct. Prices have to fall


In the meantime Trump and the Biden administration are making big noise about Chinese over capacity and in view of Nafta do not want to see Chinese production in Mexico.

[Chicks]

Tesla lost over $700 billion in value since November 2021 and Elon Musk wants $45 billion for his performance as CEO
https://fortune.com/2024/04/18/tesla...n-performance/

Because shareholder value… :rolleyes

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by Human

I call bullshit on you having knowledge of future battery technology that is not common knowledge.

The DHS has a quad copter drone the size of a mini van. It looks like the 'landing craft' things in the old Star Trek TV series. Lots of people have seen it.

5' diameter blades spinning 40,000 rpm. Current consumer technology couldn't lift a payload that size, except it's own battery pack.

(talk to yourself on the internet much).

[init4fun]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

There is a battery technology that will be hitting consumer markets sometime within 10 years. It's pretty amazing, but I can't talk about it.

I'm not familiar with Toyota's solid state batteries. It may be similar, or the same thing.

Hi BigElCat,

If your talking about the so called "Graphene" batteries, they are already here....


https://www.azonano.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=6233

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by init4fun

Hi BigElCat,

If your talking about the so called "Graphene" batteries, they are already here....


https://www.azonano.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=6233

All I know is what I saw.

The batteries would lighter in weight (or mass), with the capacity to discharge more current than anything I know about. Like a helium capacitor, or maybe a 'flux capacitor' with a 'delitium crystal', that never melts down.

Science Fiction is going to hit the market.

[Chicks]

Verified pro-Nazi X accounts flourish under Elon Musk
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-...nts-rcna145020

Elon's World.

Elon Musk’s X is a thriving hub for Nazi support and propaganda, with paid subscribers sharing speeches by Adolf Hitler or content praising his genocidal regime.

NBC News found that at least 150 paid “Premium” subscriber X accounts and thousands of unpaid accounts have posted or amplified pro-Nazi content on X in recent months, often in apparent violation of X’s rules. The paid accounts posting the content all consistently posted antisemitic or pro-Nazi material. Examples included praise of Nazi soldiers, sharing of Nazi symbols and denials of the Holocaust.

[BigElCat]

I have to wonder what PC member, Peace4Love, thinks about all this.

Does he still want a USAF drone base in Tunisia ?

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by init4fun

Hi BigElCat,

If your talking about the so called "Graphene" batteries, they are already here....


https://www.azonano.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=6233

I bought my Tesla in January of 2018 and have been following battery technology innovations and there are several afoot. Some of the key criteria are weight, charging times and fire danger. Solid state Lithium batteries can help with the fire danger and weight, but this is progressing a lot slower than I would have anticipated. The one I like the most is a liquid electrolyte where the spent electrolyte can be discharged in charging stations and filled up with a fresh charge somewhat akin to filling gasoline in cars.

We are at the beginning stages of this technology but fortunately there is worldwide interest in EV's while the US lags in adopting this technology except in autonomous vehicles and long haul trucks. There the technology is moving at a very rapid pace.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

The DHS has a quad copter drone the size of a mini van. It looks like the 'landing craft' things in the old Star Trek TV series. Lots of people have seen it.

5' diameter blades spinning 40,000 rpm. Current consumer technology couldn't lift a payload that size, except it's own battery pack.

(talk to yourself on the internet much).

Rotor blades can't go 40,000 rpm. They loose thrust efficiency as the they go supersonic. They would also make continuous sonic booms that would incapacitate unprotected persons in a wide area. Of course, I suppose that's the main goal, eh? Here's wikipedia on an early experiment with a supersonic propeller aircraft. Note that the propeller was supersonic, but the plane wasn't.... Republic XF-84H Thunderscreech

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Rotor blades can't go 40,000 rpm. They loose thrust efficiency as the they go supersonic. They would also make continuous sonic booms that would incapacitate unprotected persons in a wide area. Of course, I suppose that's the main goal, eh? Here's wikipedia on an early experiment with a supersonic propeller aircraft. Note that the propeller was supersonic, but the plane wasn't.... Republic XF-84H Thunderscreech

My stated diameter was a questimation, they where at least 4' in diameter. I could not see the actual blades, only a halo at the circumference, like maybe each had a rim or hoop around it. They were not silent, but surprisingly quiet.

It made noise just like a normal RC quadcopter, except the sound had more 'energy' to it. No down draft came off of it that I noticed. It was about 20 to 25 feet off the ground, about 70 feet from where I was sitting.

My assumption that it belong to the DHS is also just that; an assumption based on conjecture and hearsay (over-heard from other people talking about their sightings of the drone). And a published report that the DHS had been conducting flood plane mapping for insurance purposes in our area.