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Old 02-12-2020, 04:22 PM
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California has a reputation for "reverse liability" in that and other matters, but I honestly don't know if it is deserved other than a slam against the liberal/ progressive political outlook of the state at large
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Old 02-12-2020, 05:25 PM
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It's standard.Fellow out West shot and killed someone and was charged.t was a long drawn out affair,with who knows what it cost him in lawyers fees.He was finally arraigned,and then our Gov't thought to step in and see what they could do to change the verdict.
Thre accused was Caucasian,the fellow shot was Native.He was on his property a,breaking into a vehicle and was warned.According to the testimony the shooting was accidental.There are lots of stories of this up here
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Old 02-12-2020, 05:28 PM
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So having a AR would stop this from happening again?

How?

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Old 02-12-2020, 07:01 PM
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It's standard.Fellow out West shot and killed someone and was charged.t was a long drawn out affair,with who knows what it cost him in lawyers fees.He was finally arraigned,and then our Gov't thought to step in and see what they could do to change the verdict.
Thre accused was Caucasian,the fellow shot was Native.He was on his property a,breaking into a vehicle and was warned.According to the testimony the shooting was accidental.There are lots of stories of this up here
Is this by procedure or by statute?
Are you liable regardless of the circumstances until proven otherwise in a court of law by law?
Shouldn't the concern be about liability of defense regardless of the means/implement?
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Old 02-12-2020, 07:14 PM
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Somewhat similar to US.
Self-defence: What's acceptable under Canadian law?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/self-...-law-1.1229180

Here, the difference is the decision to charge the defender is optional and dependant on circumstances, and sadly for justice, the charging authority for reasons not always just.
https://www.ammoland.com/2016/03/can...#axzz6DnCN89hK
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Old 02-12-2020, 07:44 PM
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https://www.newstarget.com/2019-02-1...6kslhV8q8dKV1w

Defending yourself against a home invader is now a criminal offense in Canada, where “progressivism” means CRIMINALS are presumed innocent
And yes eventually the charges may be dropped,but by that time the average income person will be probably bankrupt
Also look at the date of this article

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Old 02-12-2020, 07:48 PM
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So has it come to trial yet?
If so what was the result?


https://regina.ctvnews.ca/man-charge...ance-1.4244930

"Nobody, including the police at this time, has the complete story," he said. "And the only people that know the complete story are in custody and have been in custody since the incident.""

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...rges-1.4969325

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Old 02-12-2020, 07:51 PM
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I won't disagree with you about cars and trucks.
what about the little incident on London Bridge not that long ago?
But perhaps you disagree with my assessment that cars and trucks have more economic usefulness than guns? But cars transport people to work each day, and trucks are vital to all sorts of manufacturing and distribution. What do your sporting 'modular firearns' do that is remotely as economically important? Seems to me that banning these guns will have relatively small economic impact.
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Old 02-12-2020, 08:13 PM
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So has it come to trial yet?
If so what was the result?


https://regina.ctvnews.ca/man-charge...ance-1.4244930

"Nobody, including the police at this time, has the complete story," he said. "And the only people that know the complete story are in custody and have been in custody since the incident.""

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...rges-1.4969325
I can't answer what the result is as it will probably be two years before the outcome.
He does have a couple of strikes against him,one being not having a PAL
The other also has me curious and that is the stab wounds
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Old 02-12-2020, 08:28 PM
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But perhaps you disagree with my assessment that cars and trucks have more economic usefulness than guns? But cars transport people to work each day, and trucks are vital to all sorts of manufacturing and distribution. What do your sporting 'modular firearns' do that is remotely as economically important? Seems to me that banning these guns will have relatively small economic impact.
I'm not about to get into a spat with you over economic usefulness.
Yes firearms do not deliver your fruits and vegetables to your local corner store,nor do they transport you to your place of employment if you are employed
i'm not about to start searching for what Sporting Rifles add to the economy ,but it is substantial.The manufacturing of them.The added cost of maintenance,accessories.The people they employ etc,etc.The cost of travel,lodging to go to competitions
Also you must remember that many of these including ammunition are made in the good old USA

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