I think I'll be leaving after this rant

[OvenMaster]

Let me start off by saying that no one here at PC is the cause for my decision. It's mine and mine alone.

See, I can understand that every so often, it's good to vent. With all the crap being spewed from Washington on a daily basis, it's kinda hard not to vent.

But what's the point? Anything I say or think or do is not going to make the tiniest difference in how things happen. Not to any of you, nor to any of the $%#@heads in Washington. What fun is it to read rants all the time? And debating the issues with friends won't help. All I'd be doing is spouting an opinion that in the grand scheme of things doesn't mean squat. BFD. So why should I get in an uproar over things I can't control? I have to keep my stress levels and blood pressure down.

King George was, IMO, a national embarassment, for various well-known reasons that we all know and loathe. So after his disastrous and destructive reign, it was plain to see that it wouldn't matter who the Repuglicans put up for sacrifice... I mean, candidacy. It wouldn't have mattered anyway. I live in a state that votes Democrat without even thinking.

People wanted change? By God, they got it. I was naive. I thought and hoped that it was going to be change for the better. "Oops." Wrong again!!

What am I angry about? Our new Messiah, Barack Hussein Obama, is ramming a health crusade down our throats that will cut billions from Medicare to subsidize coverage the young... especially the Medicare Advantage programs that my parents love and rely on to save big bucks with tests that cost thousands (nuclear heart scans, anyone?). The cuts have already started: my mom's 2010 premiums will be double and benefits shaved (as shown on the company's web page), and my dad's present plan has been canceled for 2010. He now has a choice of a new plan for ±30% more with another company, or to downgrade to an HMO that requires referrals for specialists. Neither are happy, to say the least. And BHO wants to cut the funding for these plans?? No thank you, Comrade President... my parents cannot afford the 20% co-pays that plain Medicare requires. And as their son it breaks my heart that I can't afford to help them.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55184

No one can convince me that there isn't a plan afoot to kill off seniors!

But... what good does it do to complain? No one will listen. No one cares. No one will fix things so that my folks can live their later years with few worries like they deserve after decades of hard work and sacrifice.

I guess we can thank King George. If he had not started this useless, costly, deadly war for oil, we wouldn't be as bankrupt. The trillions he wasted on Iraq would have been better spent on healthcare.

Like I say, every damn day there's something new to worry about. Costly health insurance reform. Massive debt. A terrible economy. Collapsing currency. Government takeovers of banks and businesses. All without our consent or approval. Hell, they're even mandating the elimination of plain old light bulbs.

Government is becoming more and more and more brazen and intrusive into peoples' daily lives and I am already sick to death of it. But it is only going to get worse and worse. Our "representatives" no longer do our bidding and represent our wishes. It's changed so that now they represent the government to US. That's backwards, and it has to stop.

I am fearful for my family, our lives, your lives, our country. And I don't think that you all want to hear nothing but rants from a frustrated son.

Government is fascinating to me. But the more I see and hear and learn about politics, the more I am physically sick to my stomach.

I'll see most of you elsewhere, and in not such a dark mood, either.

[hillbilly]

Originally Posted by OvenMaster

Let me start off by saying that no one here at PC is the cause for my decision. It's mine and mine alone.

See, I can understand that every so often, it's good to vent. With all the crap being spewed from Washington on a daily basis, it's kinda hard not to vent.

But what's the point? Anything I say or think or do is not going to make the tiniest difference in how things happen. Not to any of you, nor to any of the $%#@heads in Washington. What fun is it to read rants all the time? And debating the issues with friends won't help. All I'd be doing is spouting an opinion that in the grand scheme of things doesn't mean squat. BFD. So why should I get in an uproar over things I can't control? I have to keep my stress levels and blood pressure down.

King George was, IMO, a national embarassment, for various well-known reasons that we all know and loathe. So after his disastrous and destructive reign, it was plain to see that it wouldn't matter who the Repuglicans put up for sacrifice... I mean, candidacy. It wouldn't have mattered anyway. I live in a state that votes Democrat without even thinking.

People wanted change? By God, they got it. I was naive. I thought and hoped that it was going to be change for the better. "Oops." Wrong again!!

What am I angry about? Our new Messiah, Barack Hussein Obama, is ramming a health crusade down our throats that will cut billions from Medicare to subsidize coverage the young... especially the Medicare Advantage programs that my parents love and rely on to save big bucks with tests that cost thousands (nuclear heart scans, anyone?). The cuts have already started: my mom's 2010 premiums will be double and benefits shaved (as shown on the company's web page), and my dad's present plan has been canceled for 2010. He now has a choice of a new plan for ±30% more with another company, or to downgrade to an HMO that requires referrals for specialists. Neither are happy, to say the least. And BHO wants to cut the funding for these plans?? No thank you, Comrade President... my parents cannot afford the 20% co-pays that plain Medicare requires. And as their son it breaks my heart that I can't afford to help them.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55184

No one can convince me that there isn't a plan afoot to kill off seniors!

But... what good does it do to complain? No one will listen. No one cares. No one will fix things so that my folks can live their later years with few worries like they deserve after decades of hard work and sacrifice.

I guess we can thank King George. If he had not started this useless, costly, deadly war for oil, we wouldn't be as bankrupt. The trillions he wasted on Iraq would have been better spent on healthcare.

Like I say, every damn day there's something new to worry about. Costly health insurance reform. Massive debt. A terrible economy. Collapsing currency. Government takeovers of banks and businesses. All without our consent or approval. Hell, they're even mandating the elimination of plain old light bulbs.

Government is becoming more and more and more brazen and intrusive into peoples' daily lives and I am already sick to death of it. But it is only going to get worse and worse. Our "representatives" no longer do our bidding and represent our wishes. It's changed so that now they represent the government to US. That's backwards, and it has to stop.

I am fearful for my family, our lives, your lives, our country. And I don't think that you all want to hear nothing but rants from a frustrated son.

Government is fascinating to me. But the more I see and hear and learn about politics, the more I am physically sick to my stomach.

I'll see most of you elsewhere, and in not such a dark mood, either.

I know how you feel, and I agree. But, I must say that yes, I do listen and do care. I think everyone here cares in 'one way or another' or we wouldn't be here.

I walked the floors two days and nights in a row so pissed not long ago without a moments rest, and my wife and kids sat me down and said I was going to give myself a heart attack if I didn't ease up. God, ease up? Watchin' our country going to hell on a rocket ship and ease up? It's been a bitch my friend, I agree.

No need to leave man. If you can't bitch somewhere you'll just bottle up to much, and thats worse than lettin' it out.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by OvenMaster

Medicare Advantage is private insurance subsidize by the government. If benefits are being cut that is because of the health companies. Medicare has not changed. If your parents cannot afford the 20% they should be in favor of universal health care with a single payer.

This is exactly why people like Palin, Rush and Beck should be in jail. What we need is legislation to stop the mass media lies.

Yep

And yet you want more health care from the government??????

Personally I think your comments are very important and educational.
This site is very good as I have learned quite allot. Some things I have learned have shocked me but still I would rather learn than to stick my head in the ground.

Hope you change your mind.

[Sandy G]

Yeah, Tom, jeez...Lettin' off a little steam ever once in awhile is a good thing...'Specially around folks who care & understand...Don't leave !

[JJIII]

Every member of this group is valued. Take a break if you must but don't go.

[merrylander]

Tom, my sister celebrated her 85th birthday February past, she gets excellent health care yet 90% of the people here go ballistic when I suggest that we need a single payer plan, why?

[Charles]

I agree, what we say here has no effect on the actions of our leaders. Or anything, for that matter.

I view these forums as a source of entertainment. You can come and go at your pleasure, show up in a suit, show up in your underwear, show up sober, or drunk, doesn't matter, it's easy. Don't have to go to a bunch of work to have a good time.

Besides, it keeps my mind occupied. My poor noggin, when left to it's own devices, has a way of focusing on matters which keep me awake at nights.

I guess that's what folks call "the inner child". And since I can't get to him to whup his ass and send him to bed without supper, I guess keeping him busy is the next best thing.

Well, my "inner adult" has left a list of things on my desk to do today. I'll play a bit longer, then go back to work.

Chas

[Grumpy]

No need to bail. I am reading and listening to everyones opinions here. I have learned a lot and hope to learn much more. Come back after a break. We all need one once and a while.

[Combwork]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

No need to bail. I am reading and listening to everyones opinions here. I have learned a lot and hope to learn much more. Come back after a break. We all need one once and a while.

What he said but with one addition. I'm an Englishman living in Scotland so a lot of the political detail goes over my head. But going back to your post OvenMaster, even though of necessity the details didn't mean as much to me as they would have done to most on here, I got the jist of it; a bit dark but well argued and well reasoned and that's the point. Even without full knowledge of the frame it's in, I get at least part of the picture. Argument, debate, discussion; it's all here and you know what's amazing? Despite all the pre-conceptions, this forum hasn't broken up into factions and flame wars; it's become a genuine online debating club.

[painter]

Originally Posted by OvenMaster

Let me start off by saying that no one here at PC is the cause for my decision. It's mine and mine alone.

See, I can understand that every so often, it's good to vent. With all the crap being spewed from Washington on a daily basis, it's kinda hard not to vent.

But what's the point? Anything I say or think or do is not going to make the tiniest difference in how things happen. Not to any of you, nor to any of the $%#@heads in Washington. What fun is it to read rants all the time? And debating the issues with friends won't help. All I'd be doing is spouting an opinion that in the grand scheme of things doesn't mean squat. BFD. So why should I get in an uproar over things I can't control? I have to keep my stress levels and blood pressure down.

King George was, IMO, a national embarassment, for various well-known reasons that we all know and loathe. So after his disastrous and destructive reign, it was plain to see that it wouldn't matter who the Repuglicans put up for sacrifice... I mean, candidacy. It wouldn't have mattered anyway. I live in a state that votes Democrat without even thinking.

People wanted change? By God, they got it. I was naive. I thought and hoped that it was going to be change for the better. "Oops." Wrong again!!

What am I angry about? Our new Messiah, Barack Hussein Obama, is ramming a health crusade down our throats that will cut billions from Medicare to subsidize coverage the young... especially the Medicare Advantage programs that my parents love and rely on to save big bucks with tests that cost thousands (nuclear heart scans, anyone?). The cuts have already started: my mom's 2010 premiums will be double and benefits shaved (as shown on the company's web page), and my dad's present plan has been canceled for 2010. He now has a choice of a new plan for ±30% more with another company, or to downgrade to an HMO that requires referrals for specialists. Neither are happy, to say the least. And BHO wants to cut the funding for these plans?? No thank you, Comrade President... my parents cannot afford the 20% co-pays that plain Medicare requires. And as their son it breaks my heart that I can't afford to help them.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55184

No one can convince me that there isn't a plan afoot to kill off seniors!

But... what good does it do to complain? No one will listen. No one cares. No one will fix things so that my folks can live their later years with few worries like they deserve after decades of hard work and sacrifice.

I guess we can thank King George. If he had not started this useless, costly, deadly war for oil, we wouldn't be as bankrupt. The trillions he wasted on Iraq would have been better spent on healthcare.

Like I say, every damn day there's something new to worry about. Costly health insurance reform. Massive debt. A terrible economy. Collapsing currency. Government takeovers of banks and businesses. All without our consent or approval. Hell, they're even mandating the elimination of plain old light bulbs.

Government is becoming more and more and more brazen and intrusive into peoples' daily lives and I am already sick to death of it. But it is only going to get worse and worse. Our "representatives" no longer do our bidding and represent our wishes. It's changed so that now they represent the government to US. That's backwards, and it has to stop.

I am fearful for my family, our lives, your lives, our country. And I don't think that you all want to hear nothing but rants from a frustrated son.

Government is fascinating to me. But the more I see and hear and learn about politics, the more I am physically sick to my stomach.

I'll see most of you elsewhere, and in not such a dark mood, either.

I agree with most of you post Ovenmaster. You have your plate full with responsibility there. I applaud you for being a good son. I've enjoyed all your thoughts here...Thanks. I follow you.