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09-18-2017, 12:09 PM
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A current campaign ad has me wondering about implications that the 2nd is an authorization for armed insurrection. Is it possible to endorse the 2nd without endorsing armed rebellion as it's justification?
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Back on topic, this;
http://thefederalist.com/2016/06/20/...ut-revolution/
And this;
https://www.theatlantic.com/national...rnment/241298/
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09-18-2017, 01:21 PM
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Well aside from the high temperatures and the fact that central Oregon is burning up all around me, things are well. I was able to find a decent job over here after commuting over the mountain every week for a year. The place is coming along nice. New paint and decks. Planted a few thousand square feet of lawn. Getting ready to build a couple fences. Just living life.
Want to put a 4' wood fence and some mulch behind the lawn. Should be a nice view from the back yard then.
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Noticed you have cages around the bushes?
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09-18-2017, 01:36 PM
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Noticed you have cages around the bushes?
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Deer and other critters will eat them, I expect.
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09-18-2017, 04:44 PM
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What a beautiful setting in which to live.
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09-19-2017, 12:40 AM
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09-19-2017, 02:06 PM
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The idea that gun owners can or should play a positive role by threatening insurrection is too spurious to need serious refutation. The Atlantic article you also cited in your previous post does a pretty good job though.
A gaggle of civilians cannot stand up to actual troops, even if they have military rifles. This is mainly because they are not trained and organized to fight as a unit. Real troops will almost always slice them up in a standing fight. Even the writer in the piece you cite isn't silly enough to to suggest armed civilians can topple the government in a real scenario. He posits a mutiny by military units. Which is a thing to worry about, BTW....
(fixed link in the quote)
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09-19-2017, 03:35 PM
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The idea that gun owners can or should play a positive role by threatening insurrection is too spurious to need serious refutation. The Atlantic article you also cited in your previous post does a pretty good job though.
A gaggle of civilians cannot stand up to actual troops, even if they have military rifles. This is mainly because they are not trained and organized to fight as a unit. Real troops will almost always slice them up in a standing fight. Even the writer in the piece you cite isn't silly enough to to suggest armed civilians can topple the government in a real scenario. He posits a mutiny by military units. Which is a thing to worry about, BTW....
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I find the notion frightening, but it appears now a tenet of the NRA and has support from them and white nationalists.
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09-19-2017, 04:34 PM
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Even the idea the framers seem to have actually put in the Constitution--the no standing army, militia for defense notion--was never any good. The militia did no good in the war of 1812, and in general did no good, or definite harm, at other times. Framers weren't always right.
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09-19-2017, 06:32 PM
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I sometimes think seeing an attempt at an armed insurrection would be amusing. OTOH, if they became frequent I would imagine the annihilations could gain some mass public sympathy.
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Noticed you have cages around the bushes?
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Bob nailed that one.
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09-19-2017, 08:34 PM
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Indian wisdom: Why do white men plant grass where it doesn't want to grow?
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