Virginia Rednecks Let Their Freak Flag Fly

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

Mebbe it's time for some folks to quit rubbing slavery in the face of their descendents so they can feel superior to someone else and justified in a war defending a despicable practice.

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And, there it is.

Dave

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by nailer

Union Artillery was clearly superior.

Firing on Ft Sumpter was clearly a miscalculation of probabilities and Lincolns Unionist determination tho some still insist on referring to it as "the war of Northern agression".


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[icenine]

you guys have not met Chas yet

he seems to find positive things about the old south

[donquixote99]

It's amazing how powerful stories are. Slavery and the war over it are 150 years in the past, but folks are completely ready to get fussed and shitty over the story to be told about it.

[Dondilion]

However there is no denying despite 150 years, there is a strong oral
history influencing this behavior.

[donquixote99]

That's what I said. Oral history = stories. I was just marveling at the 'strongness' you mention.

It's a matter of identity, I suppose. People often get very defensive about their identity, and are willing to believe and say odd things to support it. Others will feel motivated to attack the oddness, since it's always fun to kick around the the people OUR stories say are wrong. And so it goes.

[sheltiedave]

Slavery and an economic system that valued people based on the color of their skin was wrong, and still is wrong.

That confederate flag was a war flag from its inception, and to me anyone who flies it proudly represents a war status and actively supports secession against the Union(still.)

If these people are so set on celebrating their heritage, let them fly their 1861 state flag, or the first Confederate States flag, and not the war flag. The war flag has a completely different set of meanings, and none of them are well received by Northerners, or descendants of former slaves.

http://www.anyflag.com/history/confeder.htm

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

Slavery and an economic system that valued people based on the color of their skin was wrong, and still is wrong.

That confederate flag was a war flag from its inception, and to me anyone who flies it proudly represents a war status and actively supports secession against the Union(still.)

If these people are so set on celebrating their heritage, let them fly their 1861 state flag, or the first Confederate States flag, and not the war flag. The war flag has a completely different set of meanings, and none of them are well received by Northerners, or descendants of former slaves.

http://www.anyflag.com/history/confeder.htm

There is some logic to what you say, but you can't beat stories with logic. The fact that the battle flag offends who it offends is one of the things these guys really like about it.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

That's what I said. Oral history = stories. I was just marveling at the 'strongness' you mention.

For instance some see Sherman as the devil incarnate and have an ingrain antipathy for people they view as yankee.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

For instance some see Sherman as the devil incarnate and have an ingrain antipathy for people they view as yankee.

So the stories teach. Apparently people have the ability to pass down such emotion for many generations. It creates what are called 'hereditary enemies,' though it's inherited verbally, not biologically.