If I believed in Karma: BP, Iran, the CIA.

[diamondsoul]

Yup ol' Saddam was a piece of work. Good riddance to him, his sons and cronies. That picture of him and Rumsfield shaking hands is a classic. Shaking hands with the devil, or satan meets lucifer?

Problem with countries like Iraq that are made up of several peoples: Kurds, Shiah marsh Arabs, a Sunni ruling class, etc. is that it takes a brute like Saddam to keep the peace. Just like when Tito was gone Yugoslavia fell apart.

Sometimes The Project for a New American Century still appears to be running things from behind the scenes.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

Cheers

Lar

[Charles]

Originally Posted by diamondsoul

Yup ol' Saddam was a piece of work. Good riddance to him, his sons and cronies. That picture of him and Rumsfield shaking hands is a classic. Shaking hands with the devil, or satan meets lucifer?

Problem with countries like Iraq that are made up of several peoples: Kurds, Shiah marsh Arabs, a Sunni ruling class, etc. is that it takes a brute like Saddam to keep the peace. Just like when Tito was gone Yugoslavia fell apart.

Sometimes The Project for a New American Century still appears to be running things from behind the scenes.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

Cheers

Lar

They REALLY said that?

Engaging in diplomacy and advancing the nation's interests are positive attributes, IMHO.

Chas

[merrylander]

Unfortunately, in discovering oil over there we gave a bunch of beknighted savages wealth. Between Sunni, Shia, Wahabism, Kurds, Turks, Kyrgs, Uzbecs, etc. it seems about time for a new version of the Merry Minuet. We should just come home and let them kill each other off.

[diamondsoul]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Unfortunately, in discovering oil over there we gave a bunch of beknighted savages wealth. Between Sunni, Shia, Wahabism, Kurds, Turks, Kyrgs, Uzbecs, etc. it seems about time for a new version of the Merry Minuet. We should just come home and let them kill each other off.

Hey, we were the savages in the relationship at one point, . At least our European ancestors were.

Apparently when the Ruskies were in Afghanistan they discovered huge mineral deposits. Now the US has 'rediscovery' this great wealth. Will be very interesting to see how this wealth benefits the people of Afghanistan.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...3trillion.html

Cheers

Lar

[diamondsoul]

Back on topic

The reason I started this thread was to help get at the bigger picture. How in the hell did we allow BP, Transoceanic and Halliburton get into the position that something like this blow out could occur?

Although I don't believe in Karma I do believe that what goes around comes around and that we reap what we sow. The question of how BP's predecessor had so much power that it could influence the British government to ask the US government to help overthrow a legitimately elected democratic government is directly related to the question of how BP today was allowed to drill a well at that depth with no way of controlling it should the circumstances that occurred did occur.

Right now off the East Coast of Canada Chevron is drilling an exploratory well that is even deeper than BPs was in the Gulf. They want to do it in exactly the same way as BP did it as well. No relief wells, unless they are needed in an emergency. And guess where the rigs to drill the relief wells will have to come from? The Gulf, and that is if they are not in use, lol. How long will it take for them to move the rigs to the East Coast? Who knows it depends on the weather, how long to drill the relief wells? Same as in the Gulf maybe longer because of the added depth. What the _ uck are these people thinking? They are thinking dollars and cents and the bottom line for investor dividends, that's where their thinking stops.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundlan...drill-615.html

Sure great safety records are fine, until something like the Deepwater occurs, then it too late.

Time to rein these _uckers in me thinks.

By the way I'm apolitical, I'm a member of South Park's Blame Canada Party

Cheers

Lar