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Old 06-07-2014, 03:43 AM
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[QUOTE=icenine;223294]In 1924 no one in the rest of the world took him seriously. Why did millions of Germans vote for him in the elections of 1933? His book had been out for 10 years by then.

The barking monster was a brilliant agitator and he promised jobs for milliions of unemployed people, unemploymennt was a huge problem in Germany in the early thirties. The other political parties then were weak and devoid of lacking in ideas. These are some reasons why he was so successful.
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In 1924 no one in the rest of the world took him seriously. Why did millions of Germans vote for him in the elections of 1933? His book had been out for 10 years by then.

The barking monster was a brilliant agitator and he promised jobs for milliions of unemployed people, unemploymennt was a huge problem in Germany in the early thirties. The other political parties then were weak and devoid of lacking in ideas. These are some reasons why he was so successful.
The rest was that he ran his party as a criminal enterprise that effectively used intimidation, blackmail, and murder to vitiate all opposition, and he rendered the Reichstag non-functional through a strategy of disciplined disruption and trolling by the Nazi delegation. This being in addition, as you note, to being 'fortunate' in the quality of other actors of crucial influence, eg Hindenburg and von Papen.

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The rest was that he ran his oarty as a criminal enterprise that effectively used intimidation, blackmail, and murder to vitiate all opposition, and he rendered the Reichstag non-functional through a strategy of disciplined disruption and trolling by the Nazi delegation. This being in addition, as you note, to being 'fortunate' in the quality of other actors of crucial influence, eg Hindenburg and von Papen.
However people still voted for him. Millions did.
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However people still voted for him. Millions did.
Hitler had a very effective propaganda machine headed by Goebbels.

For instance he made great use of the government connection to the construction of the Bundesautobahn and Hitlers personal connection to Volkswagen car - Hitler designed the "Peoples' car".
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Hitler had a very effective propaganda machine headed by Goebbels.

For instance he made great use of the government connection to the construction of the Bundesautobahn and Hitlers personal connection to Volkswagen car - Hitler designed the "Peoples' car".
Two little mistakes in your post. The "Bundesautobahn" is the term for the current highways. The name of the barking monster's invention was "Reichsautobahn".

"Peoples' Car" - which is our well known "Volkswagen" was a term that did not exist in the beginning. The name of Ferdinand Porsche's project was "KDF Wagen". The acronym KDF means "Kraft durch Freude", which means "Strength by joy". Porsche designed the car.

I love this expression. Strength by joy. Beautiful. But stigmatized forever by the fucking Nazis nobody use it anymore.
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Two little mistakes in your post. The "Bundesautobahn" is the term for the current highways. The name of the barking monster's invention was "Reichsautobahn".

"Peoples' Car" - which is our well known "Volkswagen" was a term that did not exist in the beginning. The name of Ferdinand Porsche's project was "KDF Wagen". The acronym KDF means "Kraft durch Freude", which means "Strength by joy". Porsche designed the car.

I love this expression. Strength by joy. Beautiful. But stigmatized forever by the fucking Nazis nobody use it anymore.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_%...kswagen_Beetle
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Interesting detail Pio, I didn't know that before.
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The barking monster was a brilliant agitator and he promised jobs for milliions of unemployed people, unemploymennt was a huge problem in Germany in the early thirties. The other political parties then were weak and devoid of lacking in ideas. These are some reasons why he was so successful.
And there's our answer. In less prosperous countries, such as the African nations, warlords gain control of the food & water supply and use it to control the masses. If you don't submit, you don't eat. In the "industrialized" nations such as Germany and the United States.....it's employment that is used in this fashion.

"They who do not work, shall not eat."

Where have we heard THAT from recently?

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