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January 6, 2021 Storming of the US Capitol
Starting this thread as a single point of reference to this seditious act.
It appears certain based on the lack of preparedness and timely response to this seditious attack on the seat of government of the United States that the leadership of Federal law enforcement agencies purposely did not respond in a timely manner or with sufficient force to deal with the event that culminated with the storming of the US Capitol.
Federal agencies such as the Department of Defense, the FBI and possibly others, did not respond to calls for help to send reinforcements or approve the use of National Guard or non-federal law enforcement agencies for over 90 minutes after Senate and House leaders contacted law enforcement pleading for help.
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Extremists made little secret of ambitions to 'occupy' Capitol in weeks before attack
On Thursday, Washington Police Chief Robert Contee said at a news conference that there was "no intelligence that suggested there would be a breach of the U.S. Capitol."
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/interne...ttack-n1253499
Law Enforcement was WELL aware, well in advance, of what was going to go down. Why were they so unprepared? Did DiaperDon block them?
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What was the limit, zero? tRump spent his entire term stuffing federal agencies with loyalists to do his bidding. Who at the Pentagon is responsible?
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What was the limit, zero? tRump spent his entire term stuffing federal agencies with loyalists to do his bidding. Who at the Pentagon is responsible?
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Actually, it took one hour for the Army Secretary to approve full mobilization of the DC National Guard. I honestly think that's fast work for the Pentagon. The general bureaucratic decision-making process involves a dozen guys signing off on anything.
The initial responses came from underlings who would have no discretion and be disposed to respond according to existing policy, which had been set with a mind to avoiding more criticism like the National Guard got for it's involvement during the BLM protests.
Certainly better security arrangements for DC should exist, and I am suspicious that some elements of the Capitol Police may actually have been complicit, or perhaps unwittingly complicit. But I think the old dictum of 'never ascribe to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity' is going to be very applicable to this whole thing.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark B
Starting this thread as a single point of reference to this seditious act.
It appears certain based on the lack of preparedness and timely response to this seditious attack on the seat of government of the United States that the leadership of Federal law enforcement agencies purposely did not respond in a timely manner or with sufficient force to deal with the event that culminated with the storming of the US Capitol.
Federal agencies such as the Department of Defense, the FBI and possibly others, did not respond to calls for help to send reinforcements or approve the use of National Guard or non-federal law enforcement agencies for over 90 minutes after Senate and House leaders contacted law enforcement pleading for help.
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There was an enormous crowd of very pissed off Trump supporters there. Congress is very lucky. Had this been anything other than a legitimate constitutionally protected exercise of the First Amendment, for example, if President Trump had actually done what the fake news media has wrongfully accused him of--inciting a riot--most of Congress would either be dead or in the hospital and the Capitol building would likely be burned to the ground.
And I find it really amusing that left wingers seem to have no problems with government offices (such as police departments in some blue states) being burned to the ground without the National Guard being allowed to stop it, but somehow a similar act on the politically correct Capitol is now "seditious."
What the Democrats in Congress have failed to learn about that day's little adventure is that they are a minority in America and are walking on very thin ice. When an angry majority has the balls to storm the Capitol, then states like Wisconsin, Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona might not be so safe on the next Election Day, should they try committing the same voter and election fraud they pulled last November.
It is a shame that this country has come to that, but let's not forget that the Democrats have brought this all on themselves.
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01-09-2021, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Reason10
There was an enormous crowd of very pissed off Trump supporters there. Congress is very lucky. Had this been anything other than a legitimate constitutionally protected exercise of the First Amendment, for example, if President Trump had actually done what the fake news media has wrongfully accused him of--inciting a riot--most of Congress would either be dead or in the hospital and the Capitol building would likely be burned to the ground.
And I find it really amusing that left wingers seem to have no problems with government offices (such as police departments in some blue states) being burned to the ground without the National Guard being allowed to stop it, but somehow a similar act on the politically correct Capitol is now "seditious."
What the Democrats in Congress have failed to learn about that day's little adventure is that they are a minority in America and are walking on very thin ice. When an angry majority has the balls to storm the Capitol, then states like Wisconsin, Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona might not be so safe on the next Election Day, should they try committing the same voter and election fraud they pulled last November.
It is a shame that this country has come to that, but let's not forget that the Democrats have brought this all on themselves.
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Your analysis is truly ignorant.
DC is a Federal jurisdiction, and it's virtually impossible for a large gathering to take place without Federal law enforcement the Department of Defense and other agencies knowing about it and assessing the level of threat it constitutes.
The problem in the case of the Trump mob rally is that the Feds are controlled by the Executive branch (the President) and he made sure that Federal law enforcement did not deploy forces adequate to the possible threat.
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01-09-2021, 12:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reason10
There was an enormous crowd of very pissed off Trump supporters there. Congress is very lucky. Had this been anything other than a legitimate constitutionally protected exercise of the First Amendment, for example, if President Trump had actually done what the fake news media has wrongfully accused him of--inciting a riot--most of Congress would either be dead or in the hospital and the Capitol building would likely be burned to the ground.
And I find it really amusing that left wingers seem to have no problems with government offices (such as police departments in some blue states) being burned to the ground without the National Guard being allowed to stop it, but somehow a similar act on the politically correct Capitol is now "seditious."
What the Democrats in Congress have failed to learn about that day's little adventure is that they are a minority in America and are walking on very thin ice. When an angry majority has the balls to storm the Capitol, then states like Wisconsin, Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona might not be so safe on the next Election Day, should they try committing the same voter and election fraud they pulled last November.
It is a shame that this country has come to that, but let's not forget that the Democrats have brought this all on themselves.
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The lies in your posts are vile as is your hero.
You choose to believe what you want to. Thankfully you and other brainwashed Trumpkin fools are a minority.
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