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Old 07-02-2015, 10:54 AM
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Interesting at this relatively late date the apparently ignorant use of Confederate iconography to make the show look all South-y, in spite of the S&B notorious association with overtly racist attitudes (the lost cause mythology notwithstanding).

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In the 1970s you would see that flag in Ohio pretty regularly, on cars and even in dorm room windows. I think maybe American society then did not see it as offensive as today. Maybe as a nation we had our collective blinders on.
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Old 07-02-2015, 12:39 PM
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In the 1970s you would see that flag in Ohio pretty regularly, on cars and even in dorm room windows. I think maybe American society then did not see it as offensive as today. Maybe as a nation we had our collective blinders on.
Doubtful. I have never met anyone who displayed that flag who wasn't making a racial (racist) statement.
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Old 07-02-2015, 01:50 PM
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Doubtful. I have never met anyone who displayed that flag who wasn't making a racial (racist) statement.
Actually I can remember way back in the day before the Civil Rights movement heated up, I'm talking maybe early to mid 1950's, when that flag was more of an anti-Yankee thing rather than an anti-black thing.

Of course back then we didn't have no Nigga problems down heah.

Dey knew their place and stayed in it.

It wasn't until them damned outside agitatin Yankees came down here and started putting ideas in their haids is when all this heah trouble started.
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Old 07-02-2015, 02:18 PM
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Actually I can remember way back in the day before the Civil Rights movement heated up, I'm talking maybe early to mid 1950's, when that flag was more of an anti-Yankee thing rather than an anti-black thing.

Of course back then we didn't have no Nigga problems down heah.

Dey knew their place and stayed in it.

It wasn't until them damned outside agitatin Yankees came down here and started putting ideas in their haids is when all this heah trouble started.
The two are inextricably intertwined. The anti-Yankee sentiment is rooted in the Lost Cause. The cause that was lost was the Southern Way Of Life. The Southern Way of Life was rooted in white privilege enabled by the enslavement of the blacks.

I'm a little older than you and I grew up in a southern state during Jim Crow. I've eaten at Whites Only lunch counters, drunk from Whites Only water fountains, peed in Whites Only restrooms and fished in the lake at Robert E. Lee Memorial Park (which still exists and is still so named).

This southern state was Maryland, a slave state though it stayed in the Union. Harriet Tubman was enslaved in Maryland. John Wilkes Booth was a Marylander. Get away from Baltimore or the DC suburbs (some of them) and you're in the South..... still.

Southern culture and all its iconography is racist to the core.
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Old 07-03-2015, 08:36 AM
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In the 1970s you would see that flag in Ohio pretty regularly, on cars and even in dorm room windows. I think maybe American society then did not see it as offensive as today. Maybe as a nation we had our collective blinders on.
Still do...................and more determined to keep them on than ever.

Other than Daisy wiggling her butt around, I saw nothing about that show to draw my interest. Just another parade of goofy rednecks and impossible car tricks.
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Other than Daisy wiggling her butt around, I saw nothing about that show to draw my interest.



It appears that Daisy's butt has outgrown that role.

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If that was directed at me, no I was not a fan but it was only a TV show. Plenty of other things screwed up this country.
Have you seen CSA the movie?
Disturbing yet intriguing alternate history.

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Interesting at this relatively late date the apparently ignorant use of Confederate iconography to make the show look all South-y, in spite of the S&B notorious association with overtly racist attitudes (the lost cause mythology notwithstanding).

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Interesting that Andy Griffith and The Waltons didn't need the S&B iconography.

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Interesting that Andy Griffith and The Waltons didn't need the S&B iconography.

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I actually saw a black woman in an Andy Griffith Episode!

Check out the crowd behind Barney starting at about the 4 minute mark!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V_vKNCMLg0
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Quoting yourself is fine Pio...just as long as you do not start referring to yourself in the third person, like that farm animal over in AK
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