Fox News explains why solar power works in Germany, but not here.

[bobabode]

Mini, The idea of solar, wind, geothermal etc. presently is to not replace every dirty source (coal, oil, NG, nuke) power plant. It is to augment it, thereby reducing pollution. BTW, fracked NG is most definitely killing coal. Fossil fuels are all finite, solar isn't. Well, unless you look at the real long term-5,000,000,000 years down the road.

[mini me]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Mini, The idea of solar, wind, geothermal etc. presently is to not replace every dirty source (coal, oil, NG, nuke) power plant. It is to augment it, thereby reducing pollution. BTW, fracked NG is most definitely killing coal. Fossil fuels are all finite, solar isn't. Well, unless you look at the real long term-5,000,000,000 years down the road.

I'm not sure that our national energy policy dovetails with your observations about augmentation. The rate of construction of new coal - fired power plants is declining, and current plants are finding it hard to stay in operation with increasing regulations. Wind power is fine and dandy, but I don't think its proven its viability just yet. Yet, new wind power installations drove up the planned output of wind power ahead of natural gas output last year. Sure, that was due to the prospect of a federal subsidy drying up, but we'll have to see if fracking drives up the contribution of natural gas generated electrical power in a similar fashion in 2013.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...s-in-2012.html

And nuke plants, last i heard, were still in a holding pattern.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/08/09/news...aste/index.htm

[BlueStreak]

In one I was looking for the stats on a country. In the other I was looking for stats on a state.

I didn't really want to spend much time searching for the article that compares the two specifically. Hence, two different sources.

And who ever said solar would replace other sources of energy?

A little o' this, a little o' that, not one or the other. Ya dig?

Dave

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

In one I was looking for the stats on a country. In the other I was looking for stats on a state.

But you know, Dave, since they were from different sources, one has to be wrong!

John

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by baconshorts

Shibani Joshi has no business commenting on how solar power would or would not work. Very stupid of Fox News (and I would say negligent actually) not bringing a Solor Industry person to talk about it.

According to Wikipedia electricity in Germany costs about 31 cents per Kilowatt hour. In the US its 8 to 17.

A while back I ran the numbers and seemed about right. It would take a tripling of electricity prices where I am at to make it even break even. The fact that energy prices in the US are relatively cheap makes solar non-viable. However, Obama is working hard to triple the cost of your electricity prices and will do so if he gets his way. So for those of you praying for a democratic house and senate, better get busy "prepping" for a huge increase in your electricity bills.

http://youtu.be/ydqg7ThZB04

"Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket." (January 2008)

Better get those light bulbs swapped out and paint your roof white.

If you're going to quote someone? Do it right. Otherwise, you're just trolling as usual. Sheesh.... and you call me "stupid"?Go find yourself a bridge to hide under, would ya?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by baconshorts

That quote is verbatim and even has the context of the actual interview to go along with it.

Verbatim? My ass. It's cap in trade, not cap and trade. Stop putting a cap in your foot every time you post something and you just might earn some respect around here.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by baconshorts

Shibani Joshi has no business commenting on how solar power would or would not work. Very stupid of Fox News (and I would say negligent actually) not bringing a Solor Industry person to talk about it.

According to Wikipedia electricity in Germany costs about 31 cents per Kilowatt hour. In the US its 8 to 17.

A while back I ran the numbers and seemed about right. It would take a tripling of electricity prices where I am at to make it even break even. The fact that energy prices in the US are relatively cheap makes solar non-viable. However, Obama is working hard to triple the cost of your electricity prices and will do so if he gets his way. So for those of you praying for a democratic house and senate, better get busy "prepping" for a huge increase in your electricity bills.

http://youtu.be/ydqg7ThZB04

"Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket." (January 2008)

Better get those light bulbs swapped out and paint your roof white.

He's also going to shoot your dog and fuck your wife.

Or is that the other way around?

John

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by baconshorts

Pay no attention to him (Obama). He doesn't mean what he says.

"Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket." (January 2008)

So, that would mean that this is not true?

Regards,
Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by baconshorts

Sarcasm.

Likewise.