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01-20-2010, 12:43 PM
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The Republican opposition to the bill has less to do with the actual content of the bill than its potential over time to provide meaningful reform and an equitable system of access to health care.
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Or could it be that the voters don't like the idea of leaving the barn door wide open to any number of new laws that could and will be tacked on after the bills passage?
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Part of the reason for its length is the Republican plan (successfully implemented) to amend the damn thing to death. The Rs did everything they could think of to make both the perception and the reality of the bill unpalatable to the American people.
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Or could it be that the voters are waking up finally and saying they've had enough of the welfare state of things?
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The truth has no party. The Republicans have been thriving on division since Newt and before.
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And there's none of that with Dems right? How much pork did they throw out to...ready...INDIVIDUAL states to push this bill through? To me that's just as much division as poor vs. rich. I don't see any of the politicians helping people up, just empty promises to become effective immediately after election of course. Never happens unless it's a handout, from mine to theirs.
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I think it's fairly apt to brand the core 18% or so of Republican supporters as Moonies but 18% doesn't win elections. Something else is going on and that is an atmosphere of fear and mistrust, directed at other Americans, which the Republicans, through their spokespeople Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, O'Reilly, Levin, Bennett, Weiner, Coulter, Malkin, Ingram...... I'm worn out........, have infected us with.
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Know what, I listen to some of the folks mentioned above occasionally. Fear? Yup, that's what I have when Pelosi opens her pie hole. Mistrust? Yup, everytime ANY of the politicians says we're here to help.
Carry on.
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01-20-2010, 12:45 PM
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Funny thing is that it was after I got down here, I would have bet on Rohmer.
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01-20-2010, 12:47 PM
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Agreed!
Interesting thread.
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01-20-2010, 01:01 PM
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He was a Democrat.
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I know. That's why I edited it.
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01-20-2010, 01:04 PM
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Carry on.
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You sure? I have your permission?
Thanks!
John
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01-20-2010, 01:05 PM
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Funny thing is that it was after I got down here, I would have bet on Rohmer.
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Yeah, I thought it was him too.
John
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01-20-2010, 02:47 PM
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Funny thing is that it was after I got down here, I would have bet on Rohmer.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lamm
I was pretty young at the time so it meant squat to me. The old folks were a little riled though.
Roy Romer was a hoot too. I remember a photo op he did declaring himself "an old farmboy" before trying to mount a horse. If you can find the old footage its a great laugh.
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01-20-2010, 02:57 PM
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They had a year to get it done. So now it's the republicans fault again. Boo Hoo. I think the tax payers have had enough. The only way to fix our problems is to buy american products. Screw both parties!
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Exactly my thoughts. Screw both parties, they look nothing like what the forefathers intended for them to look like. I'm a Democrat who lost his 30 year job because of a plant moving overseas 2 years ago. Where the Hell is the focus on bringing WORK to our country again? What good is any health care bill if I can't afford to pay the premiums? I'm sick of all of these people turning their collective backs on mainstream America, on both sides of the aisle. They all point fingers at each other with their faces turned away from the people who put them in office.
Not gonna lie here, I was ready to vote for Hillary because she was campaigning on the contention of taxing and tariffing every US company exporting jobs! Regardless of party, that's who I will vote for the next time around.
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01-20-2010, 03:08 PM
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Not gonna lie here, I was ready to vote for Hillary because she was campaigning on the contention of taxing and tariffing every US company exporting jobs! Regardless of party, that's who I will vote for the next time around.
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Man, this is hard to admit...
I supported Obama. In hindsight, I should have gotten on board with my wife for Hillary. She just knows how to play the game.
I don't know why they asked, but Rasmussen had a poll about her this week- 54% approval. She may get the last laugh.
Take care,
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01-20-2010, 03:10 PM
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Not gonna lie here, I was ready to vote for Hillary because she was campaigning on the contention of taxing and tariffing every US company exporting jobs! Regardless of party, that's who I will vote for the next time around.
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If she could do that that I would vote for her.
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