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Old 02-20-2015, 03:36 PM
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Bluebook essay contest:

Compare and contrast the reaction of Egypt to Morisi's effort to become a dictator in 2012 with that of Germany in the 1930s after the passage of various Enabling Acts.
There was enough mass in Egypt who definitely did not want a religious
dictatorship. They had seen examples close to them and wanted no part of
it.

I believe the Germans to a great degree got taken in by Hitler's master play
on the fear of the Bolsheviks. By burning down the reichstag he got a free
hand to move against the commies, but used it to move against everyone
he did not like.
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There was enough mass in Egypt who definitely did not want a religious
dictatorship. They had seen examples close to them and wanted no part of
it.

I believe the Germans to a great degree got taken in by Hitler's master play
on the fear of the Bolsheviks. By burning down the reichstag he got a free
hand to move against the commies, but used it to move against everyone
he did not like.
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missed my whole point..but good first paragraph. Such an essay would get you into graduate school but no Graduate Assistant stipend to get you out of the tuition costs
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Starting "Triumph of the Will" now.
Doubt I could stomach Mein Kampf.

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Old 02-20-2015, 03:55 PM
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A distinction without a difference when it comes to the Third Reich.
An oversimplification.

It is always at some level grotesque to think one has summed-up millions of people in a sentence or two.

It takes unusual courage to act against the cultural tide of any particular time. It is easy to think other people should-have. Very very easy.
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Old 02-20-2015, 04:17 PM
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Sadly, as time goes on, it is starting to become more benign. Sort of the same way Napoleon is seen today...as quite not so bad. Of course for the real people Napoleon killed on his excursions through Europe it was bad.

Look at Harmon Kardon's post another way when he mentioned his relatives on the Eastern Front: why were they there to begin with? Germany wanted to make Eastern Europe and Russia their backyard and the Slavic peoples who lived their did not matter because they were sub-human. It was all written down in the 1920s by the leader in the book we are discussing.
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Remember is was the German Army that did the fighting; not some para-military group created by the leader.
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Hitler after the putsch developed a deep understanding of what was required
to get power. Noticed the efficient beheading of the SA.
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Remember is was the German Army that did the fighting; not some para-military group created by the leader.
Armies fight and die. All armies. Armies are like that.

The libertarians like to observe that a rational army would desert. That begs the question of why real armies don't....
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The Iraqi army did not fight and die against ISIS when they came to Mosul.
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The Iraqi army did not fight and die against ISIS when they came to Mosul.
OK. Delete 'all.' I can think of other counter-examples. Combat ability is to a good extent a cultural variable.

Still it's not unusual for armies to fight. Hitler did not have to change anything about the German Army to create a force willing to fight hard. It was there for him to use.
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