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10-12-2022, 10:43 AM
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Gog and Magog
George W Bush believed the biblical stuff about Gog and Magog was a reason to invade Iraq, and said so to Jacques Chirac by way of trying to get him to help. If we count what happened to Iraq as matching the outcome predicted (and it's not a big stretch), we can tick this prophecy off as done.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...on-george-bush
BTW I have this reference from the book "They Knew" by Susan Kendzior. Highly recommended. Explains how conspiracy theory is understandable. Some theories point to actual conspiracies, and some theories are created by actual conspiracies.
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10-12-2022, 04:59 PM
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The Christian Bible is (IMHO) the Unified Conspiracy Theory.
We'll back it up to Noah; we've all heard of the Noah's Ark story.
Noah had three sons who avoided being drowned with all other inhabitants of earth; Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Noah, his wife, and the sons' wives were also spared.
Magog is Japeth's second son. His people, referred to as Gog, were destine to conquer the land of Israel. But they are not part of the tribe of Judah. Jacob, the swindler, became the patriarch of Israel. Israel became 12 tribes, Judah being one of them.
This leads us to the Bush dynasty, and the establishment of the modern day Nation / State of Israel. This wouldn't have happened without the Jewish Holocaust.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...secondworldwar
(to be continued)
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10-13-2022, 06:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigElCat
The Christian Bible is (IMHO) the Unified Conspiracy Theory.
We'll back it up to Noah; we've all heard of the Noah's Ark story.
Noah had three sons who avoided being drowned with all other inhabitants of earth; Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Noah, his wife, and the sons' wives were also spared.
Magog is Japeth's second son. His people, referred to as Gog, were destine to conquer the land of Israel. But they are not part of the tribe of Judah. Jacob, the swindler, became the patriarch of Israel. Israel became 12 tribes, Judah being one of them.
This leads us to the Bush dynasty, and the establishment of the modern day Nation / State of Israel. This wouldn't have happened without the Jewish Holocaust.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...secondworldwar
(to be continued)
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The unified conspiracy theory!
I am awaiting your continuation.
There were significant sympathy and support for Hitler in the business and upper class of Europe and America. Hitler was seen as a growing counter
to the evil Bolsheviks. it is not surprising that the Bushes were part of that abetting clique.
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10-13-2022, 01:42 PM
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The unified conspiracy theory!
I am awaiting your continuation.
There were significant sympathy and support for Hitler in the business and upper class of Europe and America. Hitler was seen as a growing counter
to the evil Bolsheviks. it is not surprising that the Bushes were part of that abetting clique.
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And who is said (in the Book of Revelation) to motivate nations to war against one another, to get people to kill each other. The Gog.
Where did the Communist manifesto come from ? England; Engels and Marx.
Where did the financial architecture of the Nazi's come from ? England; Rothschilds / Max Warburg. Who escaped Nazi Germany right before the war broke out ? Max.
Most of the turmoil in the Middle East stems from the displacement of the Palestinians to create Israel.
IMHO, these things are not coincidental.
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10-13-2022, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BigElCat
And who is said (in the Book of Revelation) to motivate nations to war against one another, to get people to kill each other. The Gog.
Where did the Communist manifesto come from ? England; Engels and Marx.
Where did the financial architecture of the Nazi's come from ? England; Rothschilds / Max Warburg. Who escaped Nazi Germany right before the war broke out ? Max.
Most of the turmoil in the Middle East stems from the displacement of the Palestinians to create Israel.
IMHO, these things are not coincidental.
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Marx and Engels were Germans who wrote The Communist Manifesto in Brussels. It was then published in London. As for Third Reich inspiration and financing, it came from many places, including the USA, though Thiessen and Krupp, large German industrial concerns, provided significant funding.
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Marx and Engels were Germans who wrote The Communist Manifesto in Brussels. It was then published in London. As for Third Reich inspiration and financing, it came from many places, including the USA, though Thiessen and Krupp, large German industrial concerns, provided significant funding.
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This is true.
And our modern enemies are not true Communist, they are opportunist control freaks.
But we can see how the foundation for modern conflicts was laid down long ago.
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10-13-2022, 01:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigElCat
And who is said (in the Book of Revelation) to motivate nations to war against one another, to get people to kill each other. The Gog.
Where did the Communist manifesto come from ? England; Engels and Marx.
Where did the financial architecture of the Nazi's come from ? England; Rothschilds / Max Warburg. Who escaped Nazi Germany right before the war broke out ? Max.
Most of the turmoil in the Middle East stems from the displacement of the Palestinians to create Israel.
IMHO, these things are not coincidental.
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So in Conspiracy theory what is the thought on the slaughter of the first born?
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10-13-2022, 04:03 PM
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So in Conspiracy theory what is the thought on the slaughter of the first born?
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That is the Old Testament. Not sure what you're asking.
I think the Passover is the literal truth, rather than allegory.
The Prophet Muhammad states that his people, The Children of the Book, were the ones led out of captivity in Egypt. This is central to my jigsaw puzzle theory, but I'm not sure that's what you're asking.
You could be asking, 'how could the Creator be all about love, and then kill babies' (and therefore it's all BS).
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10-13-2022, 08:27 AM
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A bit more from Sarah Kendzior: "Pizzagate is an example of a preemptive narrative inversion, one of the main methods used by elites to dodge accountability. Preemptive narrative inversion is an early propaganda intervention in which outside parties interested in an actual crime are redirected toward a fictitious crime that exonerates the actual criminals and, ideally, implicates their opponents at the same time." The Epstein operation is one actual crime example. You now understand the original idea behind Q-Anon.
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10-13-2022, 01:17 PM
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A bit more from Sarah Kendzior: "Pizzagate is an example of a preemptive narrative inversion, one of the main methods used by elites to dodge accountability. Preemptive narrative inversion is an early propaganda intervention in which outside parties interested in an actual crime are redirected toward a fictitious crime that exonerates the actual criminals and, ideally, implicates their opponents at the same time." The Epstein operation is one actual crime example. You now understand the original idea behind Q-Anon.
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The GOP 'stolen election' narrative would be another example, would it not ?
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