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A New York State judge has just ordered Donald Trump to pay The New York Times $392,638 to reimburse their legal fees in a frivolous lawsuit Trump brought against the newspaper.
So, the NYT fake news is real, eh?
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I consider this as Trump helping to shore up the failing New York Times, a native New Yorker doing his bit to keep his local paper from sinking. Whether he will actually part with the money is a whole different matter.
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01-16-2024, 07:32 AM
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68% of Iowa caucus goers say Biden didn’t win legitimately in 2020. And we're not support to say they're stupid?
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01-16-2024, 07:55 AM
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68% of Iowa caucus goers say Biden didn’t win legitimately in 2020. And we're not support to say they're stupid?
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Um...uh... I got nothin'. I guess a certain amount of stupidity is required to be that gullible.
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01-16-2024, 10:22 AM
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68% of Iowa caucus goers say Biden didn’t win legitimately in 2020. And we're not support to say they're stupid?
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From the NBC News Iowa Entrance Poll: Did Biden legitimately win in 2020?
Yes:
Haley voters: 79%
DeSantis voters: 40%
Trump voters: 6%
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01-16-2024, 10:52 AM
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Politics has become like religion, one believes what one wants to believe. And instead of preachers, we have political pundits.
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01-16-2024, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
From the NBC News Iowa Entrance Poll: Did Biden legitimately win in 2020?
Yes:
Haley voters: 79%
DeSantis voters: 40%
Trump voters: 6%
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Good news is that from reports, about half of Haley supporters will not vote for Trump and perhaps why Trump is now attacking Haley.
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01-16-2024, 12:28 PM
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68% of Iowa caucus goers say Biden didn’t win legitimately in 2020. And we're not support to say they're stupid?
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One of the strongest human biases, built into our brains, is to adopt the beliefs of our group. It's long been vital to survival and reproduction to be a group member in good standing.
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01-16-2024, 12:44 PM
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One of the strongest human biases, built into our brains, is to adopt the beliefs of our group. It's long been vital to survival and reproduction to be a group member in good standing.
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Exactly.
Billions of people believe in some form of god based upon... the belief that there is a god. Millions of people have died defending what their version of god is.
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01-16-2024, 01:12 PM
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Good news is that from reports, about half of Haley supporters will not vote for Trump and perhaps why Trump is now attacking Haley.
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and he think this is helping him why? Does he think any of his flock may stray?
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01-16-2024, 01:21 PM
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Something I found on the web and we also support of KQED public TV.
This Trump/conspiracy theorists have always intrigued me as to why so many people want to believe in his lies and why no one can have an intelligent fact based discussion with them.
Why So Many People Believe Trump Really Won the Election
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What makes everyday people so susceptible to this conspiracy?
Asheley Landrum: Although believing conspiracies is often talked about as a pathological behavior, anyone might believe one under the right circumstances. When people are exposed to information that seems to contradict their own beliefs or their values or their experiences — or maybe what they’ve been seeing consistently cultivated on their social media news feeds — they face what we call cognitive dissonance, which they need to resolve.
One way of doing that is to conspiracy theorize, which allows people to dismiss disagreeable information by questioning the credibility and the motivation of the expert communicators relaying that information. People will question the credibility of the press, politicians, doctors, for example. Because Trump supporters tend to assume the worst of Democrats, the press, and in some cases even other politicians they see as “deep state,” it seems very easy for them to believe those people would undermine the electoral process, that it’s a normative behavior.
So if I want to believe something or not believe something, I can find a way?
We all do this. We all come into contact with information that seems to contradict our prior experiences. I had an argument with my dad about learning styles. People have heard for decades that there are these different learnng styles: “Oh, I’m an auditory learner.” And if we say, well, the evidence doesn’t support that, they’ll argue back.
This is just how people process information. We always compare something that we’re exposed to with our prior understanding and knowledge of it, and if it seems to make sense, we incorporate it, and if it doesn’t seem to make sense with our prior views, then we find ways to dismiss it.
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https://www.kqed.org/science/1972169...n-the-election
https://www.kqed.org/science/1972169...n-the-election
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