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Old 02-26-2014, 08:40 AM
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If it wasn't for profit motive there'd be few drugs to treat people.

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Old 02-26-2014, 08:48 AM
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If it wasn't for profit motive there'd be few drugs to treat people.

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I agree and true capitalism (not cronyism)despite its flaws is still the best system there is.
But to have a 20 year patent in this day and age is non productive. Most drugs are either obsolete or they have discovered the bad side effects within a 5 year period of time. I totally agree with you Pete.
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they have discovered the bad side effects within a 5 year period of time.
You have a dry sense of humor.
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:24 AM
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Not sure if it is only big pharma because most sales to drugstores go through some four or five wholesellers and they would take the gold fillings out of their grandmother's teeth.

We watched a Novartis BP medication start at $300 for a 90 days supply that eventually hit $600 in the space of four years. Now she uses the generic so if the government starts playing silly buggers we will get it from Canada. At least the Canadians have the good sense to tell big pharma that highway robbery is not allowed.

The real reason that companies like Bayer, Novartis, Astra Zenica all have offices in this country is for access to the work of the NIH and U.S. universities. The last wonder drug they came up with are the ones we cannot mention here on PC. Their main effort goes into providing new versions of existing drugs that simply cost three times as much but are no more effective that the existing drug.
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:24 AM
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You have a dry sense of humor.
Yes. I am quite the pessimist. I think it comes from watching to much US news propaganda.
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Old 02-26-2014, 10:28 AM
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Very realistic

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At least the Canadians have the good sense to tell big pharma that highway robbery is not allowed.
There are a lot of things that Canada does better.

They are much better than us when it comes to Healthcare.

They also have a lower poverty rate than us.

9% compared to our 15%.

And when you consider that their poor people have access to high quality single payer Universal Health Care, and that the income threshold to measure poverty is higher than ours, the gap becomes even greater.
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Old 02-26-2014, 11:45 AM
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Quick question

Is Big Pharma the leading killer of people in America?
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Old 02-26-2014, 11:53 AM
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If it wasn't for profit motive there'd be few drugs to treat people.

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In 1955 Salk's years of research paid off. Human trials of the polio vaccine effectively protected the subject from the polio virus. When news of the discovery was made public on April 12, 1955, Salk was hailed as a miracle worker. He further endeared himself to the public by refusing to patent the vaccine. He had no desire to profit personally from the discovery, but merely wished to see the vaccine disseminated as widely as possible.
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Old 02-26-2014, 11:57 AM
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Quick question

Is Big Pharma the leading killer of people in America?
Funny I googled "prescription drug deaths" and it took me to mostly websites of attorneys. I would post the stats they give but..... when has an attorney ever told the truth?
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