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Old 03-28-2015, 09:11 PM
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Middle Eastern security threats we face are largely attributable to carrying Israel's water for over 60 years. To the extent they provide us intelligence, it's not much of a repayment for the $115 billion we've given them, not to mention the lives expended in Iraq on their behalf. Hell, it's our support of them that largely causes our need for the intelligence to begin with. With friends like them, ....
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:20 PM
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Middle Eastern security threats we face are largely attributable to carrying Israel's water for over 60 years. To the extent they provide us intelligence, it's not much of a repayment for the $115 billion we've given them, not to mention the lives expended in Iraq on their behalf. Hell, it's our support of them that largely causes our need for the intelligence to begin with. With friends like them, ....
Hmm, really? So we should just cut 'em loose, huh? What do you think that would look like?
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:22 PM
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Middle Eastern security threats we face are largely attributable to carrying Israel's water for over 60 years. To the extent they provide us intelligence, it's not much of a repayment for the $115 billion we've given them, not to mention the lives expended in Iraq on their behalf. Hell, it's our support of them that largely causes our need for the intelligence to begin with. With friends like them, ....
It's refreshing to read an honest appraisal of our relationship with Israel.
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:24 PM
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Hmm, really? So we should just cut 'em loose, huh? What do you think that would look like?
Be an American. Put your country first. Stop being a politicians pawn.
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:37 PM
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Hmm, really? So we should just cut 'em loose, huh? What do you think that would look like?
Good for us, bad for them. Plus, my son would move home from Tel Aviv.
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That requires independent thought.
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Just the thing that's guaranteed to sway my opinion: an opinion piece from a neoliberal think tank!
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Hmm, really? So we should just cut 'em loose, huh? What do you think that would look like?
Fairness to the Palestinians?
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Old 03-29-2015, 08:13 AM
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Apparently you both missed post 5.
It's the blogoshpere, whell. It's not legitimate journalism. In cases like this, I'm more than comfortable shooting the idiotic messengers.
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Old 03-29-2015, 08:46 AM
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Good for us, bad for them. Plus, my son would move home from Tel Aviv.
Think bigger. I don't think the long view is good news for anyone. Great paper on the "Clash Of Civilizations" written over 20years ago that could have been written yesterday. Also of interest those fixated on Bush / Cheney, if you do the math W was nowhere on the national / international political landscape in 1993.

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/pnorri...gton_Clash.pdf

The entire thing is worth a read, but of particular interest is what starts on page 30 or 31.
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