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Old 03-28-2015, 03:14 PM
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I don't disagree. However, historically if you have an ally, you don't act in ways that are potentially / probably harmful to their interests.
That's just it, though. America has no real ally in Israel. It's not a mutually beneficial relationship. America is Israels patron and caretaker. It's time for Israel to fight their own battles or fail.

It makes no difference to me.
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I don't disagree. However, historically if you have an ally, you don't act in ways that are potentially / probably harmful to their interests.
AFAIK, we have no formal alliance with Israel. Our "alliance" is a one-way street to the tune of billions per year, while they spy on us and spit in the face of our President. I find it remarkable that the GOP enjoys/prods such abuse/disrespect from an "ally." They'd never tolerate it from France (a party to a real American alliance (NATO)).
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AFAIK, we have no formal alliance with Israel. Our "alliance" is a one-way street to the tune of billions per year, while they spy on us and spit in the face of our President. I find it remarkable that the GOP enjoys/prods such abuse/disrespect from an "ally." They'd never tolerate it from France (a party to a real American alliance (NATO)).
Sure they would as long as the target was Obama (or, really, any Democrat).

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Sure they would as long as the target was Obama (or, really, any Democrat).

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Sadly true.
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AFAIK, we have no formal alliance with Israel. Our "alliance" is a one-way street to the tune of billions per year, while they spy on us and spit in the face of our President. I find it remarkable that the GOP enjoys/prods such abuse/disrespect from an "ally." They'd never tolerate it from France (a party to a real American alliance (NATO).
Dang, and here I thought our UN Ambassador just got through telling the world that "our alliance with Israel transcends politics.". As far as "abuse" from Bibi and company, since when is acting to protect your country abusive?
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Sure they would as long as the target was Obama (or, really, any Democrat).

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Oh, boo hoo. Want some cheese with that whine?
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Oh, boo hoo. Want some cheese with that whine?
It's not a case of whining, just recognizing the truth. The Republicans have amply demonstrated that the only thing they care about is political gain.
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Dang, and here I thought our UN Ambassador just got through telling the world that "our alliance with Israel transcends politics.". As far as "abuse" from Bibi and company, since when is acting to protect your country abusive?
When dissing your patron results in a lesser degree of Israeli security. Bibi has done his country more harm than good with his antics. I'm not surprised that you're impressed with him though.
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That's just it, though. America has no real ally in Israel. It's not a mutually beneficial relationship. America is Israels patron and caretaker. It's time for Israel to fight their own battles or fail.

It makes no difference to me.
On the contrary...

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Old 03-28-2015, 09:02 PM
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It's not a case of whining, just recognizing the truth. The Republicans have amply demonstrated that the only thing they care about is political gain.
RRRRRRIIIGGGHHTT. And Dems care nothing about playing politics. You posts are actually getting kinda funny.
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