Maine weighs revoking seat belt law days after 75-car pileup

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Arguing in favor of not using seat belts (whether or not the government mandates it) is idiotic.

Maybe we should have the freedom to just buy a car, jump in, fill it up, fire it up, and go drive down the interstate at any goddamn speed we like. We can turn left from the right shoulder, blow through stopsigns, etc., etc.

The government allows those of us who have demonstrated a certain level of proficiency, to operate a motor vehicle. The government makes the rules for how it should be operated, including the use of safety equipment. We are not free to operate a motor vehicle. We are not free to decide which of the rules we'll follow and which we won't.

We've spent quite a bit of time down on the Island of St. Martin over the years. The fees for motor vehicle licensure are so high that a significant percentage of the residents, perhaps even the majority, cannot afford it. This has caused a large percentage of the population to drive unlicensed, and uninsured, in rat traps leaking oil, brake fluid, steering fluid and coolant. When somebody in their beater slams into somebody else in their beater, both parties typically just walk away, if they can walk. And of course, there are not enough cops to enforce anything on the books regarding the operation of motor vehicles. It's a little place so it's bad, but not that bad. Half the population unlicensed and uninsured would be a fucking nightmare here.

Just shut TF up and buckle TF up.

[Countryford]

I'm sorry Ike that I have an opinion of my own that isn't the same as yours. How dare I? What was I thinking?

Maybe you should grow up and realize that not everyone agrees with each other. No one is wrong and there is no need for name calling.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Countryford

I'm sorry Ike that I have an opinion of my own that isn't the same as yours. How dare I? What was I thinking?

Maybe you should grow up and realize that not everyone agrees with each other. No one is wrong and there is no need for name calling.

Oh quit whining about being picked on after 100 posts. Where did I say you can't have an opinion?

Maybe you should grow up, stop being a typo pissant, if you don't like being called out on it. Just address the issue presented...but we know that when one doesn't have an answer to the issue presented they often fall back on shit like being petulant typo cop.

[Pio1980]

I investigated ABATE several years ago and gave them a wide pass, they seemed to diddle stats and wouldn't acknowledge the public burden angle. The first group I rode with in the 1960s wouldnt have you without a skid lid.

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[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Countryford

I'm sorry Ike that I have an opinion of my own that isn't the same as yours. How dare I? What was I thinking?

Maybe you should grow up and realize that not everyone agrees with each other. No one is wrong and there is no need for name calling.

I feel that you have a right to express your opinion just like everyone else here. But, if counters some one else's, attacks ensue and you need to defend your opinion and let the personal comments (to put it mildly ) bounce off. Or else it does become a pissing contest and the topic is often lost in the melee.

At least, that's my opinion and how it works.

[CarlV]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Arguing in favor of not using seat belts (whether or not the government mandates it) is idiotic.

Indeed, I am a little stupid but I ain't crazy!


Carl

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

I investigated ABATE several years ago and gave them a wide pass, they seemed to diddle stats and wouldn't acknowledge the public burden angle. The first group I rode with in the 1960s wouldnt have you without a skid lid.

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Just the acronym is enough to tell you what they're about.

Originally it stood for A Brotherhood Against Totalitarian Enactments. After several changes to try to improve their image, they settled on "American Bikers for Awareness, Training & Education".

Or something. They can't seem to make up their minds.

John

[Pio1980]

And another local traffic fatality this am with a beltless jeep driver thrown out.

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[merrylander]

In my younger days I had a 1962 Ford Falcon Futura. Ford had provided the anchors for seat belts but the were an option.. As I was the second owner I simply ordered the belts and installed them. I also installed the dash padding. That winter I hit some black ice and rolled the car into the median strip. It rolled right over and came to rest on the driver's side. The event made a believer out of me. Then that spring a co-worker had a single car accident. Not wearing a belt he was thrown from the car and struuck his head and died.

[Pio1980]

My first crash was in a '60 Falcon wagon witbout belts broadsiding a car at highway speed that turned in front of me.
The subsequent rebuilding included seat belt installation, I was lucky.


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