Canadian Truckers "Freedom Convoy"

[nailer]

Probably because the idea was a Blue plant in the ongoing media/interweb/cyber asymmetric war.

[mpholland]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

I always find the 'they both do it' argument a reality distortion, sort of like saying both Nazis and AOC are bad for America, as if AOC is actually evil. (Maybe you disagree, but I think AOC is manifestly a decent person, rather more articulate and intelligent than the average for the US Congress.)

Even the thing that triggered this exchange, the matter of protestors blocking highways, does not seem equivalent to me.The support for the 'Convoy Protest' by what now passes for mainline conservatism (that is, the Trump GOP and it's media allies) is far more pervasive and unqualified than left wing support has been for unlawful acts by Occupy Wall Street, or BLM roadblocks.

In other words, they did it worse instead of they did it first? So two wrongs don't make a right but a small wrong and a great one do?

I fail to see your issue with reality distortions. The majority of discussions on this site are based on reality distortions. Some opinion is fact, many facts are opinions. Most facts are suspect due to context of source. I am still a right leaning centrist. There are good democrats and good republicans. If either party were completely bad they wouldn't be able to get half the nation to vote for them. At some point there will be a third party that grabs the centrist vote. Since unaffiliated is the biggest "party" in the country they wouldn't need a whole lot of votes from the left or right. If the democrats are so pro common man why don't they institute a comparable tax structure to pre-Reagan times and make the rich pay for the last couple wars that they created. The biggest reality distortion out there is that the countries problems are right vs. left. The problem is rich vs poor. This facade that the left is for the common man and the right is for the rich is a joke. The rich on both sides are who is in power and they don't give a shit about the common man unless it is given to let them sling it at each other. The income disparity issue is the biggest problem this nation has and the democrats taking from the ever shrinking middle class to give to the poor is exacerbating the problem just as much as the right and their tax cuts for the rich.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by mpholland

In other words, they did it worse instead of they did it first? So two wrongs don't make a right but a small wrong and a great one do?

I fail to see your issue with reality distortions. The majority of discussions on this site are based on reality distortions. Some opinion is fact, many facts are opinions. Most facts are suspect due to context of source. I am still a right leaning centrist. There are good democrats and good republicans. If either party were completely bad they wouldn't be able to get half the nation to vote for them. At some point there will be a third party that grabs the centrist vote. Since unaffiliated is the biggest "party" in the country they wouldn't need a whole lot of votes from the left or right. If the democrats are so pro common man why don't they institute a comparable tax structure to pre-Reagan times and make the rich pay for the last couple wars that they created. The biggest reality distortion out there is that the countries problems are right vs. left. The problem is rich vs poor. This facade that the left is for the common man and the right is for the rich is a joke. The rich on both sides are who is in power and they don't give a shit about the common man unless it is given to let them sling it at each other. The income disparity issue is the biggest problem this nation has and the democrats taking from the ever shrinking middle class to give to the poor is exacerbating the problem just as much as the right and their tax cuts for the rich.

I am certainly all for a pre-Reagan progressive tax structure. indeed, I'm for a pre-Kennedy progressive tax structure. But why do you say the Democrats take from the ever-shrinking middle-class? I know of no tax increases targeting the middle, though I know of plenty of conservative proposals for same (eg, the now-forgotten 'flat tax' idea). I also think the 'to give to the poor' part is anti-poor resentment at work, given that much more goes to the military-industrial feeding trough, and to out-and-out corporate welfare.

You also should recognize that getting anything progressive through the current congress is close to impossible. So blaming the Democrats for not doing so now isn't just fair. You can make a case for the first part of the Obama administration though. The problem was that Obama was smart enough to know there might be a be reactionary movement in response to his presidency, and he walked on eggs trying not to provoke it. Didn't work.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by nailer

Probably because the idea was a Blue plant in the ongoing media/interweb/cyber asymmetric war.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...st-super-bowl/

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/l...f-0c3ebc01675d

"the idea was a Blue plant..." Yeah, suurrrr

[RickeyM]

https://www.newsweek.com/how-freedom...meline-1681385

[nailer]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...st-super-bowl/

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/l...f-0c3ebc01675d

"the idea was a Blue plant..." Yeah, suurrrr

This idea plant could very well be counter espionage against the reds. Asymmetric warfare.

[donquixote99]

Was the idea that the reds would run with it? Newsweek and Fox say it's going down. Not the most impressive sources, of course....

[donquixote99]

And this even less impressive source says this is convoy footage. Is it, or is this just ordinary heavy traffic?

https://rumble.com/vvhtrt-freedom-co...k7AVpoxE_nCUSM

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

And this even less impressive source says this is convoy footage. Is it, or is this just ordinary heavy traffic?

https://rumble.com/vvhtrt-freedom-co...k7AVpoxE_nCUSM

Who us? Nope, no convoy here, honest!

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Was the idea that the reds would run with it? Newsweek and Fox say it's going down. Not the most impressive sources, of course....

False flag op. Just like that ruckus on 1/6/2021