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Old 04-26-2018, 02:33 PM
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You need to get out of your wingnut bubble on occasion. How about these statistics about the recent special election in Pennsylvania.

For the weeks of Feb. 4 and Feb. 11, roughly two-thirds of the broadcast television ads from Saccone’s campaign, the Congressional Leadership Fund super PAC and the National Republican Congressional Committee mentioned taxes, according to a POLITICO analysis of data from Advertising Analytics. For the week of Feb. 18, that dropped to 36 percent, and to 14 percent the week after. Since the beginning of March, tax ads have been essentially nonexistent.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...blicans-458276

And this:

Just 27 percent of Americans believe the GOP tax overhaul was a good idea, according to a recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll. Even among Republican voters, the tax cuts are not exactly thunderously popular: A little more than half (56 percent) say they were a good idea.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...1ee_story.html

And this:

More than three months after the passage of the GOP’s tax-cut law, new surveys suggest that many people don’t think they are getting bigger paychecks, which could cut into support for Republicans in this fall’s midterm elections.

A CNBC poll this week stated that just 32 percent of working adults reported having more take-home pay due to the new law, a problem for Republicans hoping to run on the measure and the health of the economy in November.


http://thehill.com/policy/finance/38...ge-hits-a-snag
Polling again? We know how reliable that polling is.

Can't comment on the advertising decisions, but its pretty hard - IMHO - to make the case that Repubs aren't going to be campaigning on tax cuts in APRIL when the election is in NOVEMBER. But I'm glad to hear you're worried about what the Repub's campaign strategy looks like.
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Old 04-26-2018, 02:40 PM
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Why should the reduction in your payroll tax rate / withholding be related to, or be a function of, the business tax rate?


It was the legislation... it could have been written in a way that did not benefit corporations proportionally far more than the average joe.
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Old 04-26-2018, 03:03 PM
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Polling again? We know how reliable that polling is.

Can't comment on the advertising decisions, but its pretty hard - IMHO - to make the case that Repubs aren't going to be campaigning on tax cuts in APRIL when the election is in NOVEMBER. But I'm glad to hear you're worried about what the Repub's campaign strategy looks like.
Who said anything about me being worried about the GOP campaign strategy? I was just using facts to refute your nonsense. Again.

And as I stated earlier, the GOP campaign strategy is going to focus on Hillary and not tax cuts:

With control of Congress up for grabs this fall, the GOP's most powerful players are preparing to spend big on plans to feature Clinton as a central villain in attack ads against vulnerable Democrats nationwide. The strategy, which already has popped up in races in Pennsylvania, Indiana and North Dakota, illustrates the resilience and political potency of Republican voters' antipathy for Clinton. As difficult as it's been for Democrats to move past the Clinton era, it may be even harder for Republicans...

"I promise you that you'll continue to see it — Hillary Clinton starring in our paid media. She's a very powerful motivator," said Corry Bliss, who leads the Congressional Leadership Fund, a Republican super political action committee ready to spend tens of millions of dollars to shape House races this fall.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireS...ategy-54645845
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Old 04-26-2018, 03:33 PM
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Meanwhile, it appears that Paul Ryan just fired the House chaplain for saying the following in a House prayer on the first day of markup of the House tax bill:

"May all Members be mindful that the institutions and structures of our great Nation guarantee the opportunities that have allowed some to achieve great success, while others continue to struggle. May their efforts these days guarantee that there are not winners and losers under new tax laws, but benefits balanced and shared by all Americans."

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/38...ed-out-by-ryan
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Tucker Carlson's campaign advice to Rep Jim Jordan: Focus on "Radical Democrats", not retired Hillary...Time to stop running against Hillary.

I would expect that the tax cut should be a significant part of the Repub campaign.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...y_clinton.html
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Old 04-27-2018, 09:50 AM
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Meanwhile, it appears that Paul Ryan just fired the House chaplain for saying the following in a House prayer on the first day of markup of the House tax bill:

"May all Members be mindful that the institutions and structures of our great Nation guarantee the opportunities that have allowed some to achieve great success, while others continue to struggle. May their efforts these days guarantee that there are not winners and losers under new tax laws, but benefits balanced and shared by all Americans."

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/38...ed-out-by-ryan
Another effort by you and your fellow Dems to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Have fun with that. From the article you posted:

A senior GOP aide said Conroy’s exit “was not because of any particular prayer."

Ryan’s and Pelosi’s offices agree that Pelosi was told in advance that the chaplain was leaving.

AshLee Strong, a spokeswoman for Ryan, said it was Ryan’s decision, but declined to offer a reason for the move. She added that Pelosi and her office “were fully read in and did not object.”

"The speaker told Leader Pelosi that he would not move forward with the decision if she objected and she chose not to," Strong said.

In a separate statement to media outlets late Thursday, Strong said, "The speaker consulted with the minority leader, but the decision was his. He remains grateful for Father Conroy’s service."
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Old 04-27-2018, 10:54 AM
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Another effort by you and your fellow Dems to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Have fun with that...
Unlike you, I'm unwilling to give Ryan the benefit of the doubt in terms of his willingness to do unethical things to appease the wingnut faction of his caucus. His unwillingness to remove the thoroughly unethical and dishonest Devin Nunes from his chairmanship of the Intelligence Committee is a case in point.
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US economic growth slowed to 2.3 percent pace in Q1

Worst in five years. Poor Whell, still fervently believes Donny’s 4% promise...
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Unlike you, I'm unwilling to give Ryan the benefit of the doubt in terms of his willingness to do unethical things to appease the wingnut faction of his caucus. His unwillingness to remove the thoroughly unethical and dishonest Devin Nunes from his chairmanship of the Intelligence Committee is a case in point.
But Ryan terminated the House Chaplain without an explanation.
Wonder why.
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Old 04-27-2018, 01:04 PM
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But Ryan terminated the House Chaplain without an explanation.
Wonder why.
(CNN)At least two Republican House members confronted Speaker Paul Ryan onFriday morning at their caucus meeting over the firing of the House chaplain, multiple Republicans coming out of the meeting Friday told CNN.
One of the members who brought up concerns was New York Republican Rep. Pete King, who said afterward that Ryan's explanation for asking the Rev. Pat Conroy, a Jesuit priest, to resign was "unsatisfactory." Both King and Ryan are Catholic.

"To me it was an unsatisfactory answer," King said. "It is such an unprecedented action to be to only be taken for very, very serious issues. And the speaker said it was just because certain people said he was not complying with their request or was not giving good counsel. I never heard that from anyone. Anyone who I know who deals with him has the highest regard for him."
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