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01-19-2016, 02:50 PM
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Sir Lord Vader of Cheam
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Black Lives Matter is just like the American Indian Movement.
1. Short-sighted.
2. Criminal.
3. Worthy of scorn.
Eventually, like then, the FBI will handle this.
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01-19-2016, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
To me, the knee-jerk (and seemingly mandatory) endorsement of BLM by liberals is a way to show solidarity with the black community without having to actually undertake the requisite analysis, funding, cultural changes and hard work needed to make a dent in the problems of the inner cities.
I'm harbor no illusions that solving the problem is anywhere near that easy, particularly when much of the solution needs to come from within the black community. For the most part, I perceive white liberals endorsement of BLM as an intellectually lazy fig leaf to help assuage their white guilt.
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So, you dismiss the BLM movement on the basis of how limousine liberals pay lip service to them? The fact that they have legitimate grievances doesn't matter?
Seems hardly fair.
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01-19-2016, 02:51 PM
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Sir Lord Vader of Cheam
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Originally Posted by Boreas
So, you dismiss the BLM movement on the basis of how limousine liberals pay lip service to them? The fact that they have legitimate grievances doesn't matter?
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I dismiss them -- regardless of grievance -- based in their actions.
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01-19-2016, 02:53 PM
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The black community did itself more harm than good with its self-destructive behavior in Ferguson.
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By 'the black community' you mean all blacks in one lump, which is BS.
And, you also mean 'those people.'
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01-19-2016, 03:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreas
So, you dismiss the BLM movement on the basis of how limousine liberals pay lip service to them? The fact that they have legitimate grievances doesn't matter?
Seems hardly fair.
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They have legitimate grievances, to be sure. However, the grievances pale in comparison to the larger problems in black inner-city communities from drugs to poverty to unemployment to crime to housing to education. Police violence in these communities is more of an outgrowth/symptom of these larger problems than it is a problem in its own right.
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01-19-2016, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
The black community did itself more harm than good with its self-destructive behavior in Ferguson.
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And, assuming that this is true, it means what in relationship to the broader movement? Does it mean that since (in your view) they had no beef in Ferguson, they have no beef at all?
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01-19-2016, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
By 'the black community' you mean all blacks in one lump, which is BS.
And, you also mean 'those people.'
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Like it or not, the behavior of a lawless segment of the community in Ferguson negatively impacted the larger community there.
I need no lectures from you on racism.
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01-19-2016, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
And, assuming that this is true, it means what in relationship to the broader movement? Does it mean that since (in your view) they had no beef in Ferguson, they have no beef at all?
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See post #25. I am concerned/sympathetic with the plight of inner city blacks in our country, but picking a street thug as a movement's poster-child while engaging in wanton lawlessness in the streets ain't exactly a recipe for winning friends and influencing people. YMMV.
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01-19-2016, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
Black Lives Matter is just like the American Indian Movement.
1. Short-sighted.
2. Criminal.
3. Worthy of scorn.
Eventually, like then, the FBI will handle this.
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The comparison is totally bogus. AIM engaged in armed resistance against the US government. Nothing of the sort has ever happened, or is likely to happen with BLM.
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01-19-2016, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
The comparison is totally bogus. AIM engaged in armed resistance against the US government. Nothing of the sort has ever happened, or is likely to happen with BLM.
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Bogus indeed!
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