So no matter what happens in Massachusetts tomorrow..

[noonereal]

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Iagree

The term backward applies to folks who don't progress. That is the right wing nuts not the democrats.

That is not the intent. The intent is to reel in some of the grotesque excess that pools instead of running downstream.

[finnbow]

I think it's a mistake to try to read too deeply into a single special election. Polls that measure presidential approval ratings are famously fickle (as is American public opinion from which they derive). Dubya had historically high approval ratings at one time, but will likely go down historically as one of our worst presidents. Similarly, Reagan had the lowest approval after one year of any American president since modern polling began, yet has been canonized as one of the greats (at least by the GOP).

The GOP should be careful about drawing some deeper meaning from current Obama polls or the Massachusetts special election, lest they think that they're actually doing something right. If they continue to kowtow to the right wing crazies and alienate Blacks and Hispanics in the process, they'll paint themselves into a corner called irrelevance.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Oh for crying out loud, he inherits a fucked up economy, FUBAR'ed by the free market, two effing wars neither of which we needed nor could afford. Manages to keep us from going over the cliff economically and everyone is upset? Spoiled darlings, sitting around pissing and moaning, you want real trouble? Come on back to 1930 with me, I'll show you real problems, oddly enough precipitated by another Republican, you people never learn do you.

Ha, Ha! LMAO! Rob speaks the truth, and I'm loving it.

Obama "far left"? Only in America. Compared to the rest of the world he's a staunch Conservative Republican. You guys....................

Dave

[merrylander]

Sorry but if I hear the words "Free Market" again I might just buy a gun. Greed is ever with us and will not go away any time soon. Even in Haiti they are running a black market in drinking water,what bigger example of greed do you want?

As for the Wall Street boys they don't see first hand what their greed has done, their neighbourhoods have no foreclosures, they are not the fathers who feel shamed because they can't put food on the table despite their best efforts. Carrion, just plain carrion, evil people who should not live. They contribute nothing to the nation, only take, and take some more, and yet more. I am not a saint nor an especially great person, but there is no one on Wall Street fit to lick my boots..

[d-ray657]

A reality of our political system is that government representatives cannot accomplish anything if they cannot get elected, especially when the things to be accomplished take more than two or four years. Unless President Obama can pass a healthcare plan, his credibility as a leader, and hence as a political figure take a serious hit. Morever, the perception of his influence becomes diminished in congress, and legislators are less willing to participate in his initiatives, or at least those in congress who actually debate instead of saying no, no, no, like a two-year old.

Accordingly, the reality is that the healthcare bill has to remain priority. Remember, however, that one impetus in going forward with the healthcare bill is the effect of medical costs on our economy, and on the pocketbooks of most working (and retired) Americans. Also remember that the first initiative, occurring before any healthcare bill was proposed, was the stimulus plan. That plan focusecd on the economy (along with secondary goals like rebuilding infrastructure and creating jobs in alternative energy industries).

Regards,

D-Ray

[Grumpy]

What I am saying is he needs the break the molds and start crossing more lines.

It was no secret I supported Single payer insurance for every last one of us, regardless of income.

Nearly everything else he said hes going to do he handed off to others to screw up. That man needs to get in the ditches and start digging like the rest of us. Then I will respect him. Not a minute sooner.

[merrylander]

For sure he should not have left it to those lamebrains in Congress to write the bill without giving them a template.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Grumpy

Nearly everything else he said hes going to do he handed off to others to screw up. That man needs to get in the ditches and start digging like the rest of us. Then I will respect him. Not a minute sooner.

He needs to jettison Rahm Emmanuel.

John

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Oh for crying out loud, he inherits a fucked up economy, FUBAR'ed by the free market, two effing wars neither of which we needed nor could afford. Manages to keep us from going over the cliff economically and everyone is upset?

I remember saying words to this effect during the 2000 election. I kept hearing Bush supporters saying we needed a change. I would ask, what is it you want to change? The relative world peace, or the roaring economy? They got both.

Never can think of a time in my life when people so overwhelmingly defied all logic. One of the most prosperous periods in our nation's history and we didn't elect the guy most like him? Well, most of us *did* vote for him. All the same, why was that election even close?

So we got Bush. We got the "change" we wanted. Two wars and an economy in the toilet. So what do we do now? Blame the guy who replaced him.

This is playing out frighteningly like 1994.

[Grumpy]

Whose to say we would not have gotten those things without bush in for a second time ?