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12-23-2017, 10:13 AM
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Col·lu·sion!
Online definition,
""Secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others:""
I think the time has come to call it like it truly is, a Conspiracy and drop the word collusion from the story.
""The Open Secret About Trump’s Collusion With Russia""
https://newrepublic.com/article/1463...llusion-russia
""For one thing, Trump didn’t look or sound as if he was joking. To the contrary, he seemed quite serious. Moreover, Trump’s base clearly loved the idea of Russians purloining and publishing information that would damage Clinton. Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr., had felt the same way the month before Doral when he and other top aides met in New York with a well-connected Russian lawyer. Nor did mainstream Republicans such as House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell treat Trump’s message as a joke: They quickly announced that Moscow should be punished for its illegal interference.""
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12-23-2017, 10:36 AM
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A vacuous article. There is a big difference about seemingly wanting to collude and colluding.
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12-23-2017, 12:51 PM
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Reformed Know-Nothing
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
A vacuous article. There is a big difference about seemingly wanting to collude and colluding.
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I'll settle for obstruction of justice and perjury, if need be.
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12-24-2017, 11:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
A vacuous article. There is a big difference about seemingly wanting to collude and colluding.
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Most major charges also carry lesser, included charges. If charged with collusion, the lesser included charge would likely be attempted collusion. The conviction penalty is less severe, but it is a crime nonetheless.
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12-23-2017, 11:46 AM
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You see a vast difference. I see a little space, no more than stepping off a curb....
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12-23-2017, 04:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donquixote99
You see a vast difference. I see a little space, no more than stepping off a curb....
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Just the small space between life and death.
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12-23-2017, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by nailer
Just the small space between life and death.
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Good extension of the metaphor.
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12-24-2017, 08:21 AM
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Sort of like the $150,000,000 the Russians gave Hillary.
Philanthropic obviously.
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12-24-2017, 08:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroJunk
Sort of like the $150,000,000 the Russians gave Hillary.
Philanthropic obviously.
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""Red Herring!
Something intended to mislead or divert attention from something else; from the old practice of dragging a herring across a track to confuse tracking dogs.""
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/red+herring
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12-24-2017, 09:37 PM
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""The Alternative 'Russia Scandal""
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...russia-scandal
""Uranium One produces a small and dwindling amount of that U.S. figure. Last year, it mined just 23 tons in the U.S. — about 2 percent of the small U.S. production.""
""Some of Uranium One's U.S. uranium has gone to Canada and Europe, according to The Hill newspaper. But there is no evidence that any of it has gone to Russia.""
""This episode raises the familiar scenario of overlap between the Clinton's private dealings and public actions and the potential for conflicts of interest. Yet a number of Clinton critics and news organizations have looked into the matter and have not presented evidence of wrongdoing.""
That it that is what all the fuss is about? When we have Trump suspected, accused of conspiracy, money laundering with Russia and then obstruction of justice in a attempt to conceal.
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